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One thing I have to say before I get into the film stuff is I no longer have the patience to sit through
a film I have no interest in or that I don't like. I think it's mainly my sense of time and the fact that
I'm aware that a film will take a good 90 minutes of my life and I really don't want to waste 90
minutes on something that I end up feeling was crap. I think I've really got a lot worse in this way
as I've aged. I just turn stuff off or walk out if I don't dig it now. There are just so many things I
want to do I just won't give up the hour and a half that easy anymore. The last film that really
bothered me was Man of the Year. I sat through the whole film, the entire time on the verge of
turning it off, and when it was over I was pissed that I sat through such a piece of shit. I rented it
when I was sick thinking it had to be at least ok because of the talent involved (Walken, WIlliams,
Goldblum, Levinson...I mean come on these are good people) but what a train wreck. Levinson
wrote this steaming pile of poo and really all I could think when I was done watching it was he was
on some kinda heavy medication when he did and as the medication would wear off he'd drift into
writing a different film...or like he was channel surfing and each time he changed the channel he
began to write something related to what he was watching. Basically if this was the only film he ever
made I'd say the guy was not even qualified to spend the rest of his days making commercials for
Drano. Of course I'm probably being a bit harder on this film due to who was involved with making
it and it's always more disappointing when good people do something you think is bad. Also, it's
not that I'm a movie snob either, I like dumb comedy too and sometimes it's just what you need.
Take Leatherheads, the Clooney football comedy, I enjoyed it when we went to see it but I could
totally understand somebody else saying it's garbage.
My second point is I still really love going to the movies. Summertime though is sort of a dead
time
for movies for me. I'm just not interested in most of what is out there so unless I'm invited to go
with a group of people I pretty much avoid going this time of year. Hey, there is a really nice
hammock in my yard and in the summer I'd rather be in that sucker with a book than watching
things explode in a movie theatre. We did see the latest Indiana Jones film and for the most part I
thought it was ok but the whole midsection is a long car chase that is boring as all hell
and highlights the fact that the film is designed to be more of an amusement park ride than
anything else.
This leads to my last point which is that pretty much I watch old films at home most of the
time because I know I'm going to get something I enjoy. So, my kick the last few weeks has been
westerns, cus I love westerns, and so here are some old westerns I'd recommend:
The Bravados- Gregory Peck saddles up and rides off in a killing mood to track down a gang
that
killed and raped his wife. This one is pretty timely as we've got an administration and a good deal of
the American public that have been in the same mood as Peck since 9/11/2001. All Peck wants to
do is kill, kill, kill in this film and it' pretty interesting to watch him in this mode.
Warlock - Henry Fonda is a badass gun for hire and Anthony Quinn is his partner (and wants
to be
his partner in more ways than one it seems) that are hired to clean up the town of Warlock. Richard
Widmark is along for the ride as the gang member who decides to switch sides and become the
town sheriff which ends up putting him at odds with Fonda and Quinn. Although the director Ed
Dmytryk denies it you may find yourself thinking that long before Brokeback Mountain was even a
twinkle in Ang Lee's eye, Quinn played a rather nasty gay cowboy. This ain't your typical western!!
Last Train From Gun Hill - Kirk Douglas and Anthony Quinn star in this John Sturges directed
western about a US marshall getting the guys that killed and raped his wife. Yup, there was a lot of
killing, raping, and revenge in the old west.
Man of the West - Anthony Mann directs Gary Cooper, in what many feel was his last great
performance, in this fantastic very dark western. I know there are some old movie buffs here (PK)
that probably know this film but if you've never seen it and you like westerns go get this right now!
First of all, anything directed by Mann is worth your time and to see Coop play a guy who was at
one time so nasty "he'd push a man's guts out his back with his bare hands" is kinda fun. Basically
Cooper plays a guy who was once a serious badass and fate throws him back in with his old gang.
This film may have been the main influence for Eastwood's Unforgiven as we see Cooper's character
go through the same transition being forced back to his old ways. Lee J. Cobb is fun and Jack Lord
not only takes a beating from Cooper but to humiliate him (in what must have been a pretty
shocking moment in 1958) after he's done beating him he strips his clothes off of him. I have to
think guys like Scorsese and Peckinpah must have watched this film and thought "Wow!" as this one
seems to have really jacked up the nastiness factor going into the 60s.
These films were all labeled "adult westerns" (no, not because they were triple x rated)
because they
have good guys that are very flawed and deal with some pretty heavy ideas. They all came after The
Searchers and I have to figure that they all were sort of trying to take that sort of film to the next
level. Peckinpah and the spaghetti westerns certainly show the influence of these films. Of course
Sam went even further but I think these are the films that opened that door.
–--
'The only way to avoid getting crushed by absurdity, is to humbly include the absurd in our calculations.'
'The only way to avoid getting crushed by absurdity, is to humbly include the absurd in our calculations.'
Reg
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One thing I have to say before I get into the film stuff is I no longer have the patience to sit through
a film I have no interest in or that I don't like. I think it's mainly my sense of time and the fact that
I'm aware that a film will take a good 90 minutes of my life and I really don't want to waste 90
minutes on something that I end up feeling was crap. I think I've really got a lot worse in this way
as I've aged. I just turn stuff off or walk out if I don't dig it now. There are just so many things I
want to do I just won't give up the hour and a half that easy anymore. The last film that really
bothered me was Man of the Year. I sat through the whole film, the entire time on the verge of
turning it off, and when it was over I was pissed that I sat through such a piece of shit. I rented it
when I was sick thinking it had to be at least ok because of the talent involved (Walken, WIlliams,
Goldblum, Levinson...I mean come on these are good people) but what a train wreck. Levinson
wrote this steaming pile of poo and really all I could think when I was done watching it was he was
on some kinda heavy medication when he did and as the medication would wear off he'd drift into
writing a different film...or like he was channel surfing and each time he changed the channel he
began to write something related to what he was watching. Basically if this was the only film he ever
made I'd say the guy was not even qualified to spend the rest of his days making commercials for
Drano. Of course I'm probably being a bit harder on this film due to who was involved with making
it and it's always more disappointing when good people do something you think is bad. Also, it's
not that I'm a movie snob either, I like dumb comedy too and sometimes it's just what you need.
Take Leatherheads, the Clooney football comedy, I enjoyed it when we went to see it but I could
totally understand somebody else saying it's garbage.
My second point is I still really love going to the movies. Summertime though is sort of a dead
time
for movies for me. I'm just not interested in most of what is out there so unless I'm invited to go
with a group of people I pretty much avoid going this time of year. Hey, there is a really nice
hammock in my yard and in the summer I'd rather be in that sucker with a book than watching
things explode in a movie theatre. We did see the latest Indiana Jones film and for the most part I
thought it was ok but the whole midsection is a long car chase that is boring as all hell
and highlights the fact that the film is designed to be more of an amusement park ride than
anything else.
This leads to my last point which is that pretty much I watch old films at home most of the
time because I know I'm going to get something I enjoy. So, my kick the last few weeks has been
westerns, cus I love westerns, and so here are some old westerns I'd recommend:
The Bravados- Gregory Peck saddles up and rides off in a killing mood to track down a gang
that
killed and raped his wife. This one is pretty timely as we've got an administration and a good deal of
the American public that have been in the same mood as Peck since 9/11/2001. All Peck wants to
do is kill, kill, kill in this film and it' pretty interesting to watch him in this mode.
Warlock - Henry Fonda is a badass gun for hire and Anthony Quinn is his partner (and wants
to be
his partner in more ways than one it seems) that are hired to clean up the town of Warlock. Richard
Widmark is along for the ride as the gang member who decides to switch sides and become the
town sheriff which ends up putting him at odds with Fonda and Quinn. Although the director Ed
Dmytryk denies it you may find yourself thinking that long before Brokeback Mountain was even a
twinkle in Ang Lee's eye, Quinn played a rather nasty gay cowboy. This ain't your typical western!!
Last Train From Gun Hill - Kirk Douglas and Anthony Quinn star in this John Sturges directed
western about a US marshall getting the guys that killed and raped his wife. Yup, there was a lot of
killing, raping, and revenge in the old west.
Man of the West - Anthony Mann directs Gary Cooper, in what many feel was his last great
performance, in this fantastic very dark western. I know there are some old movie buffs here (PK)
that probably know this film but if you've never seen it and you like westerns go get this right now!
First of all, anything directed by Mann is worth your time and to see Coop play a guy who was at
one time so nasty "he'd push a man's guts out his back with his bare hands" is kinda fun. Basically
Cooper plays a guy who was once a serious badass and fate throws him back in with his old gang.
This film may have been the main influence for Eastwood's Unforgiven as we see Cooper's character
go through the same transition being forced back to his old ways. Lee J. Cobb is fun and Jack Lord
not only takes a beating from Cooper but to humiliate him (in what must have been a pretty
shocking moment in 1958) after he's done beating him he strips his clothes off of him. I have to
think guys like Scorsese and Peckinpah must have watched this film and thought "Wow!" as this one
seems to have really jacked up the nastiness factor going into the 60s.
These films were all labeled "adult westerns" (no, not because they were triple x rated)
because they
have good guys that are very flawed and deal with some pretty heavy ideas. They all came after The
Searchers and I have to figure that they all were sort of trying to take that sort of film to the next
level. Peckinpah and the spaghetti westerns certainly show the influence of these films. Of course
Sam went even further but I think these are the films that opened that door.
–--
'The only way to avoid getting crushed by absurdity, is to humbly include the absurd in our calculations.'
'The only way to avoid getting crushed by absurdity, is to humbly include the absurd in our calculations.'
