Statisticss, statistics, statistics...
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Pat, the statistic you cite is meaningless. There is simply no extrapolation of meaning in the simple statistics. I'm not knocking the statistic, but the first thing that jumps out to me is exactly what are those 25 percent in federal custody for? To further illustrate, what percentage of that is for entering the US illegally? Lastly, people in federal custody is not a relatively large number (it would have more impact if the numbers was 25 percent of ALL those incarcerated). From the stats, there are less than 200k in Fed Prison, while 2.4 mil in total custody. Immigration offenses come in at 13K. A relatively small drop in the bucket. http://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_offenses.jspSee, and this is one more reason why so much debate about all this is pointless the way it is done. It becomes the Willie Horton method of debate and gets us nowhere because it frightens too many policy makers to attempt innovative strategies because out there some where is some yapper out there waiting to yell "Gotcha" when a celebrated case hits the fan.
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Pat, the statistic you cite is meaningless. There is simply no extrapolation of meaning in the simple statistics. I'm not knocking the statistic, but the first thing that jumps out to me is exactly what are those 25 percent in federal custody for? To further illustrate, what percentage of that is for entering the US illegally? Lastly, people in federal custody is not a relatively large number (it would have more impact if the numbers was 25 percent of ALL those incarcerated). From the stats, there are less than 200k in Fed Prison, while 2.4 mil in total custody. Immigration offenses come in at 13K. A relatively small drop in the bucket. http://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_offenses.jspSee, and this is one more reason why so much debate about all this is pointless the way it is done. It becomes the Willie Horton method of debate and gets us nowhere because it frightens too many policy makers to attempt innovative strategies because out there some where is some yapper out there waiting to yell "Gotcha" when a celebrated case hits the fan.
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Speaking of guns... – dale on July 2nd, 2015-
Re: Speaking of guns... – Dan on July 2nd, 2015-
Input from EEE? – Peter T. on July 2nd, 2015
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I've given up on the gun debate.... – EEE on July 2nd, 2015
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Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – randym on July 2nd, 2015
Not a gun-rights question, EEE... – Peter T. on July 2nd, 2015
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Given it some thought... – EEE on July 3rd, 2015
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Thanks EEE! – Peter T. on July 3rd, 2015
Re: Given it some thought... – randym on July 4th, 2015
Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – Marc on July 7th, 2015
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Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – Dan on July 8th, 2015
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Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – dale on July 8th, 2015
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Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – Dan on July 8th, 2015
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Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – dale on July 9th, 2015
Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – messybear on July 20th, 2015
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Re: given the gun debate... – messybear on July 26th, 2015
Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – Reg on July 9th, 2015
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Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – dale on July 9th, 2015
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Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – Reg on July 9th, 2015
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Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – dale on July 9th, 2015
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Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – Reg on July 9th, 2015
Re: I've given up on the gun debate.... – Reg on July 9th, 2015
Re: I've Not Given Up On Dale – Peter T. on July 9th, 2015
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Re: I've Not Given Up On Dale – dale on July 9th, 2015
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Hypocrisy and Intolerance – Peter T. on July 9th, 2015
Dale is right... – Reg on July 12th, 2015
Re: I've Not Given Up On Dale – randym on July 10th, 2015
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