someone herein reported, Ross perhaps, although for some reason I thought it was you sir, that DBIS is blocked in China. Perhaps banned wasn't the correct term but obviously I inferred that.

I did not go beyond the recipes Bear but it is saved so one day I prolly will, prolly when I'm filing desk top items. Busy now backing up this system, about 6 hours to go, and then I can install Leopard(I think that's what it's called), OSX 10.5. My first upgrade in a couple of years. Quite exciting as once I get my hands on an old copy of say Windows 2000, I can start educating myself with Robinson's Curriculum on the laptop while I'm waiting around. 10.5 has an Apple developed version of Virtual PC like software. Meaning the Curriculum is Windows only and I will finally be able to utilize it. I will happily except one donation of an old Windows OS, with password, if anyone is of a mind, hint hint-) Mon am I looking forward to this.

Off to dreamland while it backs up.

Btw, I'm looking for suggestions about posting photos. Someplace online, so that I can share the Muscovy with y'all. Their coloring is rather remarkable. I began with one blue hen and two hybridized white drakes and the first two clutches produced quite the range of blues, blacks, whites and one young hen from the second clutch who is, excepting for her black head marking, irredescent green. She's just stunning in the sunlight when she's on her tip toes flapping off her excess bath water. Anyhow, ease of use is fairly critical as I'm a slow learner. Free wouldn't hurt either.

thanks, and may peace be with y'all

red socks, sure I got some red socks, so what?