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Hey Reg:Gotta disagree with ya somewhat on the capitalism thing.What we're really talking about is socialism. Whether you are
talking about the UN, Halliburton, Bush Co, or America today
in practice: they're all practicing a variation of socialistic
political philosophy.You'll say I'm full of it, but capitalism is not a political
philosophy, it is an economic practice which socialism has
long employed in monopolistic forms. Consider Hitler or
Mussolini, both socialist. Just as Lenin, Mao or Stalin were but
with different economic management philosophy(in practice).
Fascism is a capitalistic variant of socialist political philosophy
and practice(as we are witnessing in Washington today).Now me, I reject socialism, though it engulfs me in America.
Short of a truly benevolent king, which are rare, I
would rather rely on republican rule of law. No I am not a
republican party member. Nor in fact does the party embody
what I am writing about, lol, not hardly, sadly.-\I would remind you, because I believe you have acknowledged
it here, that capitalism worked pretty well for America prior to
the Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad case of
1886, wherein corporations now claim the origins of their
personhood(sic). Something I suspect we both believe show
be reversed and is a pox on our nation(& thus the world).
Further I again, in the kindness of tones, urge you to recall
that prior to that time and for some years after(until
they were gradually struck down) most states had rules
against unrestrained capitalism, in the sense it was not
permissible for corporations to meddle in elections, via
money, and other accountabilities.And although I believe capitalism to be imperfect when
unrestrained, as with the publics inability to get speedy legal
judgment against their bad antics; I also believe Adam Smith
invisible hand capitalism, which called for corporate
restraints(limitations), has provided more than any of the
other capitalistic variants employeed under all other political
varietys than strict rule of law republican practice(equality
before the law). I am convinced the the closer men strive
toward the latter, the greater human liberty and material
progress for all.Too, arguably, all commerce is capitalism.Your notion that capitalism equates to gluttony is absurb. It
does however equate pretty well with the economic promotion
of the pure consumerism cultural philosophy, promoted by
the way, by the unrestrained multinational corporatations. I
would suggest also that the gluttony stems in large measure
from hedonistic cultural philosophy based on corporate
promotion of consumption; not Christianity, which calls for
personal restraint.However, I would agree with you that this country would be a
much different place if 85% of the citizenry were, in fact,
practicing Paulian Christianity per Jesus' direction. In the first
place I don't believe 85% of this nation is even remotely
Christian, let alone in practice, and secondly, whatever portion
of us do make up this nation are primarily Laodicean in
practice. Anyhow, just wanted to keep ya on yer toes, respects
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“Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions.” Wm O. Douglas
“Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions.” Wm O. Douglas
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Green Mtn
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Hey Reg:Gotta disagree with ya somewhat on the capitalism thing.What we're really talking about is socialism. Whether you are
talking about the UN, Halliburton, Bush Co, or America today
in practice: they're all practicing a variation of socialistic
political philosophy.You'll say I'm full of it, but capitalism is not a political
philosophy, it is an economic practice which socialism has
long employed in monopolistic forms. Consider Hitler or
Mussolini, both socialist. Just as Lenin, Mao or Stalin were but
with different economic management philosophy(in practice).
Fascism is a capitalistic variant of socialist political philosophy
and practice(as we are witnessing in Washington today).Now me, I reject socialism, though it engulfs me in America.
Short of a truly benevolent king, which are rare, I
would rather rely on republican rule of law. No I am not a
republican party member. Nor in fact does the party embody
what I am writing about, lol, not hardly, sadly.-\I would remind you, because I believe you have acknowledged
it here, that capitalism worked pretty well for America prior to
the Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad case of
1886, wherein corporations now claim the origins of their
personhood(sic). Something I suspect we both believe show
be reversed and is a pox on our nation(& thus the world).
Further I again, in the kindness of tones, urge you to recall
that prior to that time and for some years after(until
they were gradually struck down) most states had rules
against unrestrained capitalism, in the sense it was not
permissible for corporations to meddle in elections, via
money, and other accountabilities.And although I believe capitalism to be imperfect when
unrestrained, as with the publics inability to get speedy legal
judgment against their bad antics; I also believe Adam Smith
invisible hand capitalism, which called for corporate
restraints(limitations), has provided more than any of the
other capitalistic variants employeed under all other political
varietys than strict rule of law republican practice(equality
before the law). I am convinced the the closer men strive
toward the latter, the greater human liberty and material
progress for all.Too, arguably, all commerce is capitalism.Your notion that capitalism equates to gluttony is absurb. It
does however equate pretty well with the economic promotion
of the pure consumerism cultural philosophy, promoted by
the way, by the unrestrained multinational corporatations. I
would suggest also that the gluttony stems in large measure
from hedonistic cultural philosophy based on corporate
promotion of consumption; not Christianity, which calls for
personal restraint.However, I would agree with you that this country would be a
much different place if 85% of the citizenry were, in fact,
practicing Paulian Christianity per Jesus' direction. In the first
place I don't believe 85% of this nation is even remotely
Christian, let alone in practice, and secondly, whatever portion
of us do make up this nation are primarily Laodicean in
practice. Anyhow, just wanted to keep ya on yer toes, respects
–--
“Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions.” Wm O. Douglas
“Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions.” Wm O. Douglas
posted 2006.09.03
posted on September 3rd 2006
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Green Mtn
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listening to: Grandchildren, the best reason for saving the future.
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Here's one for you, Pat... – Reg on August 19th, 2006-
Re: Here's one for you, Pat... – PatBrown on August 19th, 2006-
Re: Here's one for you, Pat... – Reg on August 19th, 2006-
Re: Here's one for you, Pat... – PatBrown on August 19th, 2006-
Re: Here's one for you, Pat... – Andrea on August 19th, 2006
Re: Here's one for you, Pat... – edlorah on August 19th, 2006
Re: Here's one for you, Pat... – blockdog on August 20th, 2006-
Re: Here's one for you, Pat... – PatBrown on August 20th, 2006-
Re: Here's one for you, Pat... – Dan on August 20th, 2006-
Re: Here's one for you, Pat... – PatBrown on August 20th, 2006-
Re: Here's one for you, Pat... – blockdog on August 20th, 2006
Pat, you never fail to be interesting... – Reg on August 20th, 2006
Re: Here's one for you, Pat... – Herring405 on August 20th, 2006-
I find that an interesting point as well, Herring... – Reg on August 20th, 2006
Some History – Green Mtn on August 20th, 2006-
Re: Some History – blockdog on August 20th, 2006
Re: Some History – stark raving brad on August 22nd, 2006-
Re: Some History – Green Mtn on August 22nd, 2006-
Re: Some Historical Misinterpretations – messybear on August 23rd, 2006-
Re: Some Historical Misinterpretations – Green Mtn on August 26th, 2006-
Re: Some Historical Misinterpretations – blockdog on August 28th, 2006-
Re: Some Historical Misinterpretations – Green Mtn on August 29th, 2006
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