Pat,

What I asked you was what would you be saying if Clinton or ANY democrat had been in office and had failed to bring a person in who was behind the killing of 3,000 Americans for almost five years now? Especially now that intelligence has shown Bin Laden was missed at Tora Bora your folks would be especially rabid.

But, since you won't answer, I'll tell you what we'd be seeing: just like during the Iran hostage crisis, places like FoxNews and the WSJ editorial page would have little day counters showing how many days Bin Laden has escaped capture. The right wing and mainstream media would be hitting the failure to capture Bin Laden big time. Also, there is a wide dispute over exactly how many times Clinton supposedly had Bin Laden in the cross-hairs. Reliable sources show very, very few, but that is not the question here. You again glossed right over it.

Again, you fail to answer the attack questions and how are we safer in America when there is one spot in particular that is called something like "Chemical Alley" where one well-placed bomb could create many, many more casualties than 9/11. Hell, one news program drove a truck up along side of one of these facilities and not one person came to check it out. Now how does that make us safer?!?!

As for spying on Americans - as long as it it receives proper oversight by objective and sane people and meets the requirements of the US Constititution, then I don't give a fuck how many people are spied on as long as they are fucking legitimate targets. PETA, Greanpeace and war protesters are not fucking legitimate targets.

You said Plame's outing is no big deal (but probably think the leak of secret prisons and spying is); Plame is a big deal and if you think it is not, I hope people like you never have anything to do with investigations and sensitive material. There are larger issues here. The exact damage has not been revealed yet. But her shell company has been compromised as has everyone who has had contact with it and her. Again, don't go by my word, but follow the word of fellow CIA agents, especially the two republican ones I all ready mentioned. Secondly, the biggest scandal of all this, regardless if you are a Dem, Rep, Liberal or Conservative, is that lousy fucking political hacks outed her purely to shut up a critic of the US Government. That is pure bullshit,unacceptable and criminal.

You are mistaken about Clinton being impeached - it is a technical thing, but he was tried by the Congress, but not impeached. Being impeached is a conviction. It is not the trial part of it. But like I said, it is a technical thing. And like I said, if Clinton had done half the shit the Bushies had done, he would have been actually impeached.

Pat, you are so blind to criticizing your party and team players. It is very, very sad. At some time people have to put politics aside and hold the assholes of either party accountable. Otherwise, we the people, will always be the ones taking the screwing.