>>This is easy: Lewis wasn't wrong. You were wrong.

It's good to see that we're all trying to see the cred in everyone else's argument.

>>You presume to tell me that we "get all our information >>from the eco-terrorists" and "the only credential they >>seem to give in the hope we'll believe them is that they >>aren't part of the corporate machine." Both of which are >>false statements. Both of which smell slightly of >>Bulverism to me themselves.

Fair enough...I might be wrong here (again) but in respect of drilling in Anwar, one side of the coin suggests you might as well go drilling in the garden of eden for all the ecological damage that it will incur and the other side of the coin (the evil corporation side) suggests that drilling will be limited and could actually have an odd benefit here and there.

Now I understand where those of an ecologically conscious perspective come off, but I don't hear anyone engaging the evil corporations in their suggestion that Anwar might just serve the purpose of getting the USA off being fuel dependent on Middle Eastern bloc who don't have the best intentions for the country. So we've decided that it's a bad thing to go drilling in this modern day garden of eden, would you now care to address whether it's a good thing that the country is getting screwed by the middle east for something it could potentially provide itself? Or would you prefer to answer whether we should follow CA, try and conserve our way to rolling blackouts?

God forbid that I actually disagree with you here, but could an outsider possibly think the same thing ("the only credential they seem to give in the hope we'll believe them is that they aren't part of the corporate machine.")?

>>the credential blade swings both ways. Not to mention, if >>I'm faced with two studies, one sponsored by a privately->>funded activist group, and the other funded by a >>corporation (snip)you're damn right that "not a part of >>the corporate machine" begins to look like a pretty >>decent credential.

Did you just prove my point with the final sentance there? Are you saying "Not part of the corporate machine...lets conserve our way to blackouts" Or did you mean "Not part of the corporate machine...as long as oil drilling isn't happening near me, it probably isn't as bad, what do I care whether genuine Middle Eastern terrorists are getting funded by default?"

Richard