*** So, police searches w/o a warrent, wire tapes w/o a court order, being sent to prison w/o a trial, standing trial w/o access to a lawyer - these are all "features" of the patriot act.  Those things don't scare you...but god forbid you can't have access to an AK47.....***

Firstly, I do not, have not, nor ever will, own a gun. But all Americans have the right to bear arms. That's a fact. What amuses me is your turning (spinning?) this "debate" into one about the government taking away some of our other rights (privacy ect) and yet you advocate the same by saying the right to bear arms should be taken away.

So, this isn't about the US Constitution or the Bill of Rights as a whole is it? This is about what you agree with and what you don't. It's your way or the highway. You all seem to hide behind the Constitution when the cause fits your beliefs. But your willing to look the other way when it does not.

Typical.