>>Politically we have the worst mess since the >>McCarthy era, at least as far as an admin >>trying to take away not just civil but human >>rights.

Could you possibly itemize some of the rights that are on the slide? How many more people have to be murdered by Islamic fundies before the left stops whining about security crackdowns?

Had OBL been taken out during one of the three chances Clinton was given - maybe we wouldn't be here now and you could be left to bitch about the tax cut and ignore the wee spectre of Democrat spending as one of the more central issues that is hiking up the national debt.

rms