Totally agree, that she does much better against Barr, but against Pence she apparently was told to stick to the talking points and not point out the numerous lies that flowed effortlessly from Pence - that is bad, because a lot of both the "The Repugnants" AND easily swayed voters may actually believe in those lies.

And I get u hate Hillary with a passion 😃 , but she was a far better debater and one could tell she had studied Maggie Thatcher, who despite all her faults could wipe the floor in most debates and still rarely came out as a shrill woman. Both Thatcher and Merkel come out as almost regal in comparison, which is what you should aim for if you want to rule anything.