okay, kevin, look: in david's well-earned disgust with PB&J, he proposed something basically unamerican in nature. we understand this. we also understand that the aforementioned PB&J has been adding next to nothing to the debates, in fact quite the opposite. then, since it may have slipped your mind, all of us lowly footsoldiers in db's army chimed in to contradict his proposal.

i also agree with Dan's take. but i have to say, the bottom line with internet forums is this: this is Dan's site, for David. it is his/their house. if someone was behaving horribly in your house, you absolutely have the right to ask them to leave, by force if necessary.

as for FOX, i can't answer for any Dem's lack of interest in appearing on the network, nor should i be expected to. i didn't vote for any of those people, save for Boxer, and that one was much more a vote against her GOP opponent at the time, Matt Fong.

in addition to that, the difference between FOX and Iran and/or Syria is that - and i can't believe i have to actually spell this one out (and properly, too, as grammar counts so highly) - the United States is not on the verge of dropping bombs on or invading FOX...even though it could be argued by some that they are attacking our country.

in any event, ed's muffins will save us.