Save your breath, Pat.  Neither Kerry, nor his butinsky wife are likely to matter anymore, if they ever did. He is a seemingly bright and articulate fellow(great skier, average bass player), but probably not somebody I need to listen to again.  I voted for him as a vote against Bush at the time, and I would again given similar circumstances, but I believe the field will be a lot wider next primaries, and that no matter how wide, the Dems will pick Hilary and Obama, Hilary and Obama, or ...Hilary and Obama.   And...like it or not, they will most probably be elected.  : > )

I keep hoping Chuck Hagel will toss in his bid...(I've said that before, haven't I?).   Don't know of anybody else in the Republican camp....

Gene