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"Then he is exposed as a fraud, completely lacking in credibility."I don't know, Dale, I think there is a difference between being a hypocrite and being a fraud. In my mind everyone is a hypocrite, I don't think just being a hypocrite makes you a bad person or taints everything else you do. I really think society has changed quite a bit in the last 30 years and somehow we've become obsessed with calling people liars and hypocrites. We seem to always look to trumpet the bad in people over the good. We love to label people and it seems that more people than ever are employeed in the Hypocrite business...finding them, naming them, acting like one. It seems like overkill in a big way to me. I mean if I want to talk about making a better world but I don't dedicate every second of my time to making it better does that make me a hypocrite? You could certainly argue that it does but then what should I do...say nothing and hope for the best just to avoid being labeled a hypocrite?
"If he was truly concerned about emissions causing a warming of the earth then he would lead by example. He ain't."Well, I don't know if that's true. He's dedicated a lot of time to discussing these issues and taking them to the public all over the world. I don't think you can damn him just for how much energy he's used at home or flying on a plane. He's worked hard to get a message out and touched a lot of people with it. That's more than I've done. I think he's set an example and I don't think he has done it for political gain or to make a buck. I think you can probably say a lot of things about Al Gore but not that he's trying to go around terrifying people for his personal benefit. That seems way out of line.
"I still haven't seen ANY proof that this is actually a man-made problem as opposed to a cyclical, natural occurence."Well we didn't see any proof that Iraq had anything to do with 9/11/01, that they had a stockpile of nuclear weapons, or that they could harm the United States but you "felt" comfortable enough being told they "might" be dangerous and "might sometime in the future" do something to go along with attacking them and dumping billions and billions of dollars and we're not sure how many lives into that endeavor. Now after the fact we still have no proof they were ever a danger just speculation that...well...they could have been and once a long time ago they had something. We shouldn't approach global warming the same way? Dump billions and billions of dollars into it to make sure we can't be harmed some day in the future by it. Wouldn't you call that a "preemptive strike?" "I'm beginning to think that this may be another attempt by the left to "punish" Big Business and penalize them by choking all their obscene profits."I don't know, I can't say there aren't people out there that might want to "punish" Big Business but I think those people are few in number and you would have to consider them childish fools. I think there are plenty of people who believe that with big business and big profit comes big responsibility and that there needs to be a system in place to make big business accountable for their actions. I think that's fair and I think that the temptation of profit and to let big business off the hook for the sake of profit is huge. The American Way would be to see that all are treated equal no matter the size of the company or bank account. I think that is what most people want and feel that big profit buys a lot of looking the other way or getting things the way you want. I think people have more of an issue with that than with wanting to punish a business for turning a big profit. I know plenty of Democrats and all of them would find that idea laughable.
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'The only way to avoid getting crushed by absurdity, is to humbly include the absurd in our calculations.'
'The only way to avoid getting crushed by absurdity, is to humbly include the absurd in our calculations.'
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"Then he is exposed as a fraud, completely lacking in credibility."I don't know, Dale, I think there is a difference between being a hypocrite and being a fraud. In my mind everyone is a hypocrite, I don't think just being a hypocrite makes you a bad person or taints everything else you do. I really think society has changed quite a bit in the last 30 years and somehow we've become obsessed with calling people liars and hypocrites. We seem to always look to trumpet the bad in people over the good. We love to label people and it seems that more people than ever are employeed in the Hypocrite business...finding them, naming them, acting like one. It seems like overkill in a big way to me. I mean if I want to talk about making a better world but I don't dedicate every second of my time to making it better does that make me a hypocrite? You could certainly argue that it does but then what should I do...say nothing and hope for the best just to avoid being labeled a hypocrite?
"If he was truly concerned about emissions causing a warming of the earth then he would lead by example. He ain't."Well, I don't know if that's true. He's dedicated a lot of time to discussing these issues and taking them to the public all over the world. I don't think you can damn him just for how much energy he's used at home or flying on a plane. He's worked hard to get a message out and touched a lot of people with it. That's more than I've done. I think he's set an example and I don't think he has done it for political gain or to make a buck. I think you can probably say a lot of things about Al Gore but not that he's trying to go around terrifying people for his personal benefit. That seems way out of line.
"I still haven't seen ANY proof that this is actually a man-made problem as opposed to a cyclical, natural occurence."Well we didn't see any proof that Iraq had anything to do with 9/11/01, that they had a stockpile of nuclear weapons, or that they could harm the United States but you "felt" comfortable enough being told they "might" be dangerous and "might sometime in the future" do something to go along with attacking them and dumping billions and billions of dollars and we're not sure how many lives into that endeavor. Now after the fact we still have no proof they were ever a danger just speculation that...well...they could have been and once a long time ago they had something. We shouldn't approach global warming the same way? Dump billions and billions of dollars into it to make sure we can't be harmed some day in the future by it. Wouldn't you call that a "preemptive strike?" "I'm beginning to think that this may be another attempt by the left to "punish" Big Business and penalize them by choking all their obscene profits."I don't know, I can't say there aren't people out there that might want to "punish" Big Business but I think those people are few in number and you would have to consider them childish fools. I think there are plenty of people who believe that with big business and big profit comes big responsibility and that there needs to be a system in place to make big business accountable for their actions. I think that's fair and I think that the temptation of profit and to let big business off the hook for the sake of profit is huge. The American Way would be to see that all are treated equal no matter the size of the company or bank account. I think that is what most people want and feel that big profit buys a lot of looking the other way or getting things the way you want. I think people have more of an issue with that than with wanting to punish a business for turning a big profit. I know plenty of Democrats and all of them would find that idea laughable.
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'The only way to avoid getting crushed by absurdity, is to humbly include the absurd in our calculations.'
'The only way to avoid getting crushed by absurdity, is to humbly include the absurd in our calculations.'
