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So predictable. By the way, "Dick Armey" has the best name of all
the neo-cons...
Republican Woes Lead to Feuding by ConservativesBy DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK
Published: October 20, 2006
WASHINGTON, Oct. 19 — Tax-cutters are calling evangelicals
bullies. Christian conservatives say Republicans in Congress have
let them down. Hawks say President Bush is bungling the war in
Iraq. And many conservatives blame Representative Mark Foley’s
sexual messages to teenage pages.With polls showing Republican control of Congress in jeopardy,
conservative leaders are pointing fingers at one another in an
increasingly testy circle of blame for potential Republican losses
this fall.“It is one of those rare defeats that will have many fathers,” said
David Keene, chairman of the American Conservative Union,
expressing the gloomy view of many conservatives about the
outcome on Election Day. “And they will all be somebody else.”Whether the election will bear out their pessimism remains to be
seen, and the factors that contribute to an electoral defeat are
often complex and even contradictory. But the post-mortem
recriminations can influence politics and policy for years after the
fact. After 1992, Republicans shunned tax increases. After 1994,
Democrats avoided gun control and health care reform. And 2004
led some Democrats to start quoting Scripture and rethinking
abortion rights, while others opened an intraparty debate about the
national security that is not yet resolved.In the case of the Republican Party this year, the skirmish among
conservatives over what is going wrong has begun unusually early
and turned unusually personal.But almost regardless of the outcome on Nov. 7, many
conservatives express frustration that the party has lost its
ideological focus. And after six years of nearly continuous control
over the White House and Congress, conservatives are having a
hard time finding anyone but one another to blame.“It is pre-criminations,” said Rich Lowry, editor of National Review,
the conservative magazine. “If a party looks like it is going to take
a real pounding, this sort of debate is healthy. What is unusual is
that it is happening beforehand.”Some conservative leaders have often been quicker in the past to
turn on Republican officials and one another than their rank-and-
file supporters. But this year polls show broad disaffection at the
grass roots, prompting some Republicans — including former
Speaker Newt Gingrich — to worry that the public sparring could
dampen turnout.
This year’s antagonists also include some new critics, including Mr.
Gingrich’s one-time lieutenant, Dick Armey, the former House
Republican majority leader.In recent weeks, Mr. Armey has stepped up a public campaign
against the influence of Dr. James C. Dobson, founder of Focus on
the Family and an influential voice among evangelical protestants.
In an interview published last month in “The Elephant in the Room,”
a book by Ryan Sager about splits among conservatives, Mr. Armey
accused Congressional Republicans of “blatant pandering to James
Dobson” and “his gang of thugs,” whom Mr. Armey called “real
nasty bullies” — arguments he reprised on the editorial page of
The Wall Street Journal and in an open letter on the Web site
organization FreedomWorks.In an interview this week, Mr. Armey said catering to Dr. Dobson
and his allies had led the party to abandon budget-cutting. And he
said Christian conservatives could cost Republicans seats around
the country, especially in Ohio.“The Republicans are talking about things like gay marriage and so
forth, and the Democrats are talking about the things people care
about, like how do I pay my bills?” he said.Mr. Armey also pinned some of the blame on Tom DeLay, the
former Republican House majority leader, who “was always more
comfortable with the social conservatives, the evangelical wing of
the party, than he was with the business wing.”Mr. Armey, who identifies himself as an evangelical, said he was
tired of Christian conservative leaders threatening that their
supporters would stay away from the ballot box unless they got
what they wanted.“Economic conservatives,” he argued, were emerging as the swing
voters in need of attention, in part because they had become more
likely to vote Democratic in the years since President Bill Clinton
was in office. “A lot of people believe he brought us from deficits to
surpluses, and there is a certain empirical evidence there,” Mr.
Armey acknowledged.In a statement on Thursday, Dr. Dobson said Mr. Armey was “still
ticked” over a long-ago House leadership race in which Dr. Dobson
endorsed someone else, and he restated his warnings to
Republicans that social conservative voters “would abandon them if
they forgot the promises they had made.”In a recent newsletter from Dr. Dobson’s organization,
Representative Mark Souder, an Indiana Republican counting on
Christian conservatives to turn out for his re-election, called Mr.
Armey’s comments “disgusting” and insulting to “the many
Christians around the United States who devoutly hold conservative
moral beliefs.”Christian conservatives began complaining last year that the
Republicans had put proposed Social Security changes and tax
changes ahead of issues like abortion and same-sex marriage,
risking the support of social-issue voters.Over the summer, Congress held a rush of votes on just those
issues — an election-year ritual intended to motivate those voters
— and in an interview last week Tony Perkins, president of the
Christian conservative Family Research Council, said he believed it
had begun to revive some grass-roots enthusiasm.“But the Foley scandal just let the air out of the tires,” Mr. Perkins
said.Others dismissed the Foley scandal as largely irrelevant outside of
Mr. Foley’s district. Several conservatives said Republican
incumbents were using it as a scapegoat.“It will make you feel better to say, I didn’t lose the election; Foley
lost it for me,” said Grover Norquist, the president of Americans for
Tax Reform. “Your wife and kids will believe it.”Mr. Norquist said the Iraq war was the biggest drag on Republican
candidates even before their big wins in 2004.“Some people think we did it just to prove we could do it, like
people who go running with weights on their ankles,” he said.Many blame neoconservatives who argued most vocally for the
invasion of Iraq. “The principal sin of the neoconservatives is
overbearing arrogance,” Mr. Keene said. Neoconservatives, in turn,
blamed Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld’s insistence on
holding down troop levels for the fouling up of the war“There is a bit of a battle between people who say, Hey, your tax
cuts wrecked our war and people who say, Hey, your war wrecked
our tax cuts,” said David Frum, a former Bush speechwriter who
was among the war’s proponents.Mr. Frum argued that the problem with the Iraq war was in its
execution, not in the idea behind it. “The war has to be seen
through the prism of Hurricane Katrina,” he argued, “because
conservatives will support a tough war if they are confident in the
war’s management.”William Kristol, editor of the conservative Weekly Standard and
another prominent advocate of the invasion, said he doubted that
soaring spending was turning off as many voters as tax-cutters like
Mr. Norquist or Mr. Armey suggested.“The spending bill that was supposedly going to destroy the
Republican Party was the Medicare drug bill,” he said. “I have heard
almost no one talk about it one way or the other.”Mr. Kristol argued that the Bush administration was suffering
politically for applying too little force, not too much. “I am struck
that people have the sense in North Korea and Iran that things are
spinning out of control,” he said.Mr. Frum and others blamed the Republican Senate’s support for
the president’s guest-worker immigration proposal for angering
the grass-roots talk-radio crowd. But Mr. Norquist, who favored
the immigration proposal, argued that the election would provide a
verdict on “restrictionism” in the fate of Randy Graf, a Republican
candidate in Arizona running on calls for tighter borders. Polls
show Mr. Graf faces long odds.Mr. Gingrich, for his part, made the best of the fray, saying, “I
would rather have a movement active enough to bite itself rather
than a movement so moribund it didn’t realize it was irritated.”
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"It was done only for political reasons only anyway. "
"It was done only for political reasons only anyway. "
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So predictable. By the way, "Dick Armey" has the best name of all
the neo-cons...
Republican Woes Lead to Feuding by ConservativesBy DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK
Published: October 20, 2006
WASHINGTON, Oct. 19 — Tax-cutters are calling evangelicals
bullies. Christian conservatives say Republicans in Congress have
let them down. Hawks say President Bush is bungling the war in
Iraq. And many conservatives blame Representative Mark Foley’s
sexual messages to teenage pages.With polls showing Republican control of Congress in jeopardy,
conservative leaders are pointing fingers at one another in an
increasingly testy circle of blame for potential Republican losses
this fall.“It is one of those rare defeats that will have many fathers,” said
David Keene, chairman of the American Conservative Union,
expressing the gloomy view of many conservatives about the
outcome on Election Day. “And they will all be somebody else.”Whether the election will bear out their pessimism remains to be
seen, and the factors that contribute to an electoral defeat are
often complex and even contradictory. But the post-mortem
recriminations can influence politics and policy for years after the
fact. After 1992, Republicans shunned tax increases. After 1994,
Democrats avoided gun control and health care reform. And 2004
led some Democrats to start quoting Scripture and rethinking
abortion rights, while others opened an intraparty debate about the
national security that is not yet resolved.In the case of the Republican Party this year, the skirmish among
conservatives over what is going wrong has begun unusually early
and turned unusually personal.But almost regardless of the outcome on Nov. 7, many
conservatives express frustration that the party has lost its
ideological focus. And after six years of nearly continuous control
over the White House and Congress, conservatives are having a
hard time finding anyone but one another to blame.“It is pre-criminations,” said Rich Lowry, editor of National Review,
the conservative magazine. “If a party looks like it is going to take
a real pounding, this sort of debate is healthy. What is unusual is
that it is happening beforehand.”Some conservative leaders have often been quicker in the past to
turn on Republican officials and one another than their rank-and-
file supporters. But this year polls show broad disaffection at the
grass roots, prompting some Republicans — including former
Speaker Newt Gingrich — to worry that the public sparring could
dampen turnout.
This year’s antagonists also include some new critics, including Mr.
Gingrich’s one-time lieutenant, Dick Armey, the former House
Republican majority leader.In recent weeks, Mr. Armey has stepped up a public campaign
against the influence of Dr. James C. Dobson, founder of Focus on
the Family and an influential voice among evangelical protestants.
In an interview published last month in “The Elephant in the Room,”
a book by Ryan Sager about splits among conservatives, Mr. Armey
accused Congressional Republicans of “blatant pandering to James
Dobson” and “his gang of thugs,” whom Mr. Armey called “real
nasty bullies” — arguments he reprised on the editorial page of
The Wall Street Journal and in an open letter on the Web site
organization FreedomWorks.In an interview this week, Mr. Armey said catering to Dr. Dobson
and his allies had led the party to abandon budget-cutting. And he
said Christian conservatives could cost Republicans seats around
the country, especially in Ohio.“The Republicans are talking about things like gay marriage and so
forth, and the Democrats are talking about the things people care
about, like how do I pay my bills?” he said.Mr. Armey also pinned some of the blame on Tom DeLay, the
former Republican House majority leader, who “was always more
comfortable with the social conservatives, the evangelical wing of
the party, than he was with the business wing.”Mr. Armey, who identifies himself as an evangelical, said he was
tired of Christian conservative leaders threatening that their
supporters would stay away from the ballot box unless they got
what they wanted.“Economic conservatives,” he argued, were emerging as the swing
voters in need of attention, in part because they had become more
likely to vote Democratic in the years since President Bill Clinton
was in office. “A lot of people believe he brought us from deficits to
surpluses, and there is a certain empirical evidence there,” Mr.
Armey acknowledged.In a statement on Thursday, Dr. Dobson said Mr. Armey was “still
ticked” over a long-ago House leadership race in which Dr. Dobson
endorsed someone else, and he restated his warnings to
Republicans that social conservative voters “would abandon them if
they forgot the promises they had made.”In a recent newsletter from Dr. Dobson’s organization,
Representative Mark Souder, an Indiana Republican counting on
Christian conservatives to turn out for his re-election, called Mr.
Armey’s comments “disgusting” and insulting to “the many
Christians around the United States who devoutly hold conservative
moral beliefs.”Christian conservatives began complaining last year that the
Republicans had put proposed Social Security changes and tax
changes ahead of issues like abortion and same-sex marriage,
risking the support of social-issue voters.Over the summer, Congress held a rush of votes on just those
issues — an election-year ritual intended to motivate those voters
— and in an interview last week Tony Perkins, president of the
Christian conservative Family Research Council, said he believed it
had begun to revive some grass-roots enthusiasm.“But the Foley scandal just let the air out of the tires,” Mr. Perkins
said.Others dismissed the Foley scandal as largely irrelevant outside of
Mr. Foley’s district. Several conservatives said Republican
incumbents were using it as a scapegoat.“It will make you feel better to say, I didn’t lose the election; Foley
lost it for me,” said Grover Norquist, the president of Americans for
Tax Reform. “Your wife and kids will believe it.”Mr. Norquist said the Iraq war was the biggest drag on Republican
candidates even before their big wins in 2004.“Some people think we did it just to prove we could do it, like
people who go running with weights on their ankles,” he said.Many blame neoconservatives who argued most vocally for the
invasion of Iraq. “The principal sin of the neoconservatives is
overbearing arrogance,” Mr. Keene said. Neoconservatives, in turn,
blamed Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld’s insistence on
holding down troop levels for the fouling up of the war“There is a bit of a battle between people who say, Hey, your tax
cuts wrecked our war and people who say, Hey, your war wrecked
our tax cuts,” said David Frum, a former Bush speechwriter who
was among the war’s proponents.Mr. Frum argued that the problem with the Iraq war was in its
execution, not in the idea behind it. “The war has to be seen
through the prism of Hurricane Katrina,” he argued, “because
conservatives will support a tough war if they are confident in the
war’s management.”William Kristol, editor of the conservative Weekly Standard and
another prominent advocate of the invasion, said he doubted that
soaring spending was turning off as many voters as tax-cutters like
Mr. Norquist or Mr. Armey suggested.“The spending bill that was supposedly going to destroy the
Republican Party was the Medicare drug bill,” he said. “I have heard
almost no one talk about it one way or the other.”Mr. Kristol argued that the Bush administration was suffering
politically for applying too little force, not too much. “I am struck
that people have the sense in North Korea and Iran that things are
spinning out of control,” he said.Mr. Frum and others blamed the Republican Senate’s support for
the president’s guest-worker immigration proposal for angering
the grass-roots talk-radio crowd. But Mr. Norquist, who favored
the immigration proposal, argued that the election would provide a
verdict on “restrictionism” in the fate of Randy Graf, a Republican
candidate in Arizona running on calls for tighter borders. Polls
show Mr. Graf faces long odds.Mr. Gingrich, for his part, made the best of the fray, saying, “I
would rather have a movement active enough to bite itself rather
than a movement so moribund it didn’t realize it was irritated.”
–--
"It was done only for political reasons only anyway. "
"It was done only for political reasons only anyway. "
