rosskolnikov
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Yep, the "love it or leave it" argument misses the essential push and pull of ideas that are crucial for a
democracy (or republic!) to thrive. That said, let's not mistake the current Venezuela for a real
democracy. They've just violated their own 1999 constitution (re-written after Chavez was elected the
first time). In the event of death of a president in this case, the leader of the legislature (Diosdado
Cabello) is supposed to take power temporarily. Nicolas Maduro (the VP) would still be allowed to
stand for a presidential election held within 30 days of Chavez's death. However, the Venezuelans
inexplicably swore in Maduro today. Would be nice for the O.A.S. to show some consistency and refuse
to recognize Venezuela until this constitutional wrong is righted. They stood up to Honduras in what
was more ostensibly a constitutional transfer of power against Manuel Zelaya after he broke the law.
To not do so here would signal that the Banana Republics (pardon the expression, but it's really pretty
accurate) are firmly in charge of that organization.Why is this important? Chavez nominated Maduro as the more-pure Communist who would be more
aggressive about toeing the revolutionary line. People in the government have long suspected that
Cabello is a rightist/centrist in leftist clothing. He has closer ties to moderate elements in the military
and is know to favor a (slightly) more centrist economic view. Think Brazil but with more
spending/debt.
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Yep, the "love it or leave it" argument misses the essential push and pull of ideas that are crucial for a
democracy (or republic!) to thrive. That said, let's not mistake the current Venezuela for a real
democracy. They've just violated their own 1999 constitution (re-written after Chavez was elected the
first time). In the event of death of a president in this case, the leader of the legislature (Diosdado
Cabello) is supposed to take power temporarily. Nicolas Maduro (the VP) would still be allowed to
stand for a presidential election held within 30 days of Chavez's death. However, the Venezuelans
inexplicably swore in Maduro today. Would be nice for the O.A.S. to show some consistency and refuse
to recognize Venezuela until this constitutional wrong is righted. They stood up to Honduras in what
was more ostensibly a constitutional transfer of power against Manuel Zelaya after he broke the law.
To not do so here would signal that the Banana Republics (pardon the expression, but it's really pretty
accurate) are firmly in charge of that organization.Why is this important? Chavez nominated Maduro as the more-pure Communist who would be more
aggressive about toeing the revolutionary line. People in the government have long suspected that
Cabello is a rightist/centrist in leftist clothing. He has closer ties to moderate elements in the military
and is know to favor a (slightly) more centrist economic view. Think Brazil but with more
spending/debt.
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.:RS:.
.:RS:.
posted 2013.03.08
posted on March 8th 2013
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Sean Penn lost a friend – Marc on March 6th, 2013-
Re: Sean Penn lost a friend – edlorah on March 6th, 2013
Why? – EEE on March 6th, 2013-
Re: Why? – edlorah on March 6th, 2013-
Re: Why? – messybear on March 6th, 2013
Re: Why? – Dan on March 6th, 2013
Re: Why not music? – rosskolnikov on March 8th, 2013-
Re: Why not music? – Marc on March 9th, 2013
Re: Why? – messybear on March 6th, 2013
Re: Why? – Marc on March 7th, 2013-
Re: Why? – edlorah on March 7th, 2013
You are an ass.... – EEE on March 7th, 2013-
concerning educating Marc – mick on March 7th, 2013-
What pissed me off is the utter lack of respect.... – EEE on March 8th, 2013-
No I'm still here EEE – Marc on March 9th, 2013-
Re: No I'm still here EEE – edlorah on March 9th, 2013-
Re: No I'm still here EEE – Marc on March 9th, 2013-
Re: No I'm still here EEE – edlorah on March 9th, 2013-
He'll shrink and fade....as usuall – EEE on March 9th, 2013-
socialism – mick on March 10th, 2013-
Re: social isms – messybear on March 11th, 2013
Chavez and oil... – Reg on March 7th, 2013-
Re: Chavez and oil... – edlorah on March 7th, 2013-
Re: Chavez and oil... – rosskolnikov on March 8th, 2013-
Re: Chavez and oil... – Marc on March 9th, 2013-
Re: Chavez and oil... – rosskolnikov on March 9th, 2013-
Re: Chavez and oil... – randym on March 10th, 2013-
Re: Chavez and oil... – edlorah on March 10th, 2013
Re: Chavez and oil... – rosskolnikov on March 10th, 2013
Re: Chavez and oil... – edlorah on March 10th, 2013
Re: Chavez and oil... – Marc on March 10th, 2013-
Re: Chavez and oil... – edlorah on March 11th, 2013-
Re: Chavez and oil... – heathcliffe on March 11th, 2013-
Re: Chavez and oil... – messybear on March 11th, 2013
Re: Chavez and oil... – Herring405 on March 15th, 2013-
Re: Chavez and oil... – heathcliffe on March 16th, 2013
The Problem with Chavez's heating oil subsidy – rosskolnikov on March 8th, 2013-
I don't think problem is a word I would use... – Reg on March 8th, 2013-
Re: I don't think problem is a word I would use... – rosskolnikov on March 8th, 2013-
Sorry to go on and on . . . – rosskolnikov on March 8th, 2013-
Re: Sorry to go on and on . . . – Reg on March 9th, 2013-
Re: Sorry to go on and on . . . – rosskolnikov on March 9th, 2013-
Re: Sorry to go on and on . . . – Marc on March 23rd, 2013-
Re: Slurry on and on . . . – messybear on March 23rd, 2013
Re: Sorry to go on and on . . . – edlorah on March 23rd, 2013-
Re: deep down in the muck – rosskolnikov on March 27th, 2013-
Re: deep down in the muck – heathcliffe on March 27th, 2013-
Re: stuck – rosskolnikov on March 27th, 2013-
Re: stuck – heathcliffe on March 28th, 2013-
Re: stuck – rosskolnikov on March 28th, 2013
Moving back to how this thread started... – Reg on March 28th, 2013-
Re: Moving back to how this thread started... – rosskolnikov on March 28th, 2013-
Basically the IMF finally sat down and watched Al Gore's documentary... – Reg on March 29th, 2013-
Re: Basically the IMF finally sat down and watched Al Gore's documentary... – rosskolnikov on March 31st, 2013
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