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They don't, Ed. At best, Chavez's support there is around 55-45 these days, and it could be lower.
However, those were supporters were firmly on board, and that has more to do with the messianic
and caudillo ways that he chose to portray himself. Some media outlets tried to show an alternate
view, and they either no longer exist or have been drummed off into cable. Here are some facts:On the good side - abject poverty down in Venezuela, access to health care up, basic literacy
improving, have formed a semi-credible alternate pole to US power in the region, elected in what
appear to have been reasonably fair pollsOn the bad side - inflation 25-30% for more than five years straight, "breadlines" for most staples, 6
month to 1 year wait for a new car, cost of all food besides staples 20-25% higher than USA at
official (not realistic) exchange rates, educated class driven out of the country, critics muzzle or
forced to leave, oil output falling and only saving grace has been high prices globally, failure to
develop any reasonable alternatives to oil-based income, crime up across the board - even doubling
in some areas, abused broadcasting rights during election periods, packed courts with cronies,
enriched a number of his friends (or allowed them to outright steal), eliminated any resemblance of
meritocracy in government positions, left as a successor a former bus driver with only a high school
education (what would you like to guess is Nikolas Maduro's real understanding of
macroeconomics?)I saw it all again just last month. It's as bad there as it's ever been and possibly worse. Do not
believe the Chavista propaganda about his policies working. Venezuela is fast on pace toward the
dysfunction that was the Soviet Union at the end of the 80's but without any of the scientific
achievements. Yes, Marc's post was ridiculously provocative and the use of Sean Penn was a figurative stick in
Baerwald's eye . . . very rude. But by ANY objective measure, Chavez has been an enormous failure,
squandering a historic opportunity for Venezuela provided by the increase of international oil prices
on his watch from under $20/barrel to nearly $100/barrel. That increase alone is the ONLY thing
that allowed for his largesse, and it's the ONLY reason why things were so difficult leading up to his
original election. With a 500% increase in oil profits and a population of only 20-25 million,
Venezuela should be sitting pretty like Qatar or the UAE. The fact that they are not (only Latin
American economy to lose ground to the US dollar last year) is indisputably one of the worst
management failures of all time.
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They don't, Ed. At best, Chavez's support there is around 55-45 these days, and it could be lower.
However, those were supporters were firmly on board, and that has more to do with the messianic
and caudillo ways that he chose to portray himself. Some media outlets tried to show an alternate
view, and they either no longer exist or have been drummed off into cable. Here are some facts:On the good side - abject poverty down in Venezuela, access to health care up, basic literacy
improving, have formed a semi-credible alternate pole to US power in the region, elected in what
appear to have been reasonably fair pollsOn the bad side - inflation 25-30% for more than five years straight, "breadlines" for most staples, 6
month to 1 year wait for a new car, cost of all food besides staples 20-25% higher than USA at
official (not realistic) exchange rates, educated class driven out of the country, critics muzzle or
forced to leave, oil output falling and only saving grace has been high prices globally, failure to
develop any reasonable alternatives to oil-based income, crime up across the board - even doubling
in some areas, abused broadcasting rights during election periods, packed courts with cronies,
enriched a number of his friends (or allowed them to outright steal), eliminated any resemblance of
meritocracy in government positions, left as a successor a former bus driver with only a high school
education (what would you like to guess is Nikolas Maduro's real understanding of
macroeconomics?)I saw it all again just last month. It's as bad there as it's ever been and possibly worse. Do not
believe the Chavista propaganda about his policies working. Venezuela is fast on pace toward the
dysfunction that was the Soviet Union at the end of the 80's but without any of the scientific
achievements. Yes, Marc's post was ridiculously provocative and the use of Sean Penn was a figurative stick in
Baerwald's eye . . . very rude. But by ANY objective measure, Chavez has been an enormous failure,
squandering a historic opportunity for Venezuela provided by the increase of international oil prices
on his watch from under $20/barrel to nearly $100/barrel. That increase alone is the ONLY thing
that allowed for his largesse, and it's the ONLY reason why things were so difficult leading up to his
original election. With a 500% increase in oil profits and a population of only 20-25 million,
Venezuela should be sitting pretty like Qatar or the UAE. The fact that they are not (only Latin
American economy to lose ground to the US dollar last year) is indisputably one of the worst
management failures of all time.
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.:RS:.
.:RS:.
posted 2013.03.08
posted on March 8th 2013
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Sean Penn lost a friend – Marc on March 6th, 2013-
Re: Sean Penn lost a friend – edlorah on March 6th, 2013
Why? – EEE on March 6th, 2013-
Re: Why? – edlorah on March 6th, 2013-
Re: Why? – messybear on March 6th, 2013
Re: Why? – Dan on March 6th, 2013
Re: Why not music? – rosskolnikov on March 8th, 2013-
Re: Why not music? – Marc on March 9th, 2013
Re: Why? – messybear on March 6th, 2013
Re: Why? – Marc on March 7th, 2013-
Re: Why? – edlorah on March 7th, 2013
You are an ass.... – EEE on March 7th, 2013-
concerning educating Marc – mick on March 7th, 2013-
What pissed me off is the utter lack of respect.... – EEE on March 8th, 2013-
No I'm still here EEE – Marc on March 9th, 2013-
Re: No I'm still here EEE – edlorah on March 9th, 2013-
Re: No I'm still here EEE – Marc on March 9th, 2013-
Re: No I'm still here EEE – edlorah on March 9th, 2013-
He'll shrink and fade....as usuall – EEE on March 9th, 2013-
socialism – mick on March 10th, 2013-
Re: social isms – messybear on March 11th, 2013
Chavez and oil... – Reg on March 7th, 2013-
Re: Chavez and oil... – edlorah on March 7th, 2013-
Re: Chavez and oil... – rosskolnikov on March 8th, 2013-
Re: Chavez and oil... – Marc on March 9th, 2013-
Re: Chavez and oil... – rosskolnikov on March 9th, 2013-
Re: Chavez and oil... – randym on March 10th, 2013-
Re: Chavez and oil... – edlorah on March 10th, 2013
Re: Chavez and oil... – rosskolnikov on March 10th, 2013
Re: Chavez and oil... – edlorah on March 10th, 2013
Re: Chavez and oil... – Marc on March 10th, 2013-
Re: Chavez and oil... – edlorah on March 11th, 2013-
Re: Chavez and oil... – heathcliffe on March 11th, 2013-
Re: Chavez and oil... – messybear on March 11th, 2013
Re: Chavez and oil... – Herring405 on March 15th, 2013-
Re: Chavez and oil... – heathcliffe on March 16th, 2013
The Problem with Chavez's heating oil subsidy – rosskolnikov on March 8th, 2013-
I don't think problem is a word I would use... – Reg on March 8th, 2013-
Re: I don't think problem is a word I would use... – rosskolnikov on March 8th, 2013-
Sorry to go on and on . . . – rosskolnikov on March 8th, 2013-
Re: Sorry to go on and on . . . – Reg on March 9th, 2013-
Re: Sorry to go on and on . . . – rosskolnikov on March 9th, 2013-
Re: Sorry to go on and on . . . – Marc on March 23rd, 2013-
Re: Slurry on and on . . . – messybear on March 23rd, 2013
Re: Sorry to go on and on . . . – edlorah on March 23rd, 2013-
Re: deep down in the muck – rosskolnikov on March 27th, 2013-
Re: deep down in the muck – heathcliffe on March 27th, 2013-
Re: stuck – rosskolnikov on March 27th, 2013-
Re: stuck – heathcliffe on March 28th, 2013-
Re: stuck – rosskolnikov on March 28th, 2013
Moving back to how this thread started... – Reg on March 28th, 2013-
Re: Moving back to how this thread started... – rosskolnikov on March 28th, 2013-
Basically the IMF finally sat down and watched Al Gore's documentary... – Reg on March 29th, 2013-
Re: Basically the IMF finally sat down and watched Al Gore's documentary... – rosskolnikov on March 31st, 2013
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