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I gota admit: Prior to Cassandra’s post, I was conflicted with issues of RIGHTS vs. common courtesy. Hence the `flag burning` metaphor, which, although misguided, forms it’s basic reasoning from notions of a golden rule and common sense & consideration. I mean, you would not introduce yourself to a child undergoing Leukemia treatment by saying, “Yikes, little girl, you look like a apace alien; those eyes! In fact all of you look the same, like a space alien..in the headlights!” As an American you were born with the inalienable right to free speech, yes, but you also usually gauge your words to suit the variables of appropriateness and etiquette. And so I WAS conflicted. ..BUT the Ground Zero Mosque concept is a determinedly [gross] misdirection of all rules of decency & consideration, and rights & privileges --- and for sake of win-at-all-costs politics.
It is pathetic. And..Pathetic is no way to preserve customs and traditions. Pathetic is no way to maintain a sense of self and community. And in a time when the frog is in the pot and the heat is steadily rising, PATHETIC is no way to evolve. Is it, Sir & Madam Politician, Ms. & Mr. Pundit? ..Is it?
~~
In addition: Just a few minutes ago (as I looked back at my notes to make sure I said what I came to say) a couple of wise guys (thanx, wise guys) passed this lucid editorial on to the attentive, and I believe..herein..is THE definitive memorandum to the people and our `leaders`.
[Sorry no embed, but the link works..and it is really worth the extra effort, ..really..]
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38730223/ns/msnbc_tv-countdown_with_keith_olbermann/
As a people, I hope we are able to heed the wisdoms and carry the news.… (We’re due.)
With the constant provocation via twisted information and purposeful politically rooted propaganda, it is SO easy to forget the basic human values that most of us uphold. & the source cause of this horrific civic mismanagement of we, the people, is the preposterous preponderance of our politicians (who work from a palette of broken aims, motivated by wrongnesses nearly indefinable anymore, and yet they have the lion’s share of the floor, they own or are indebted to the lion’s share of the floor, and we are immersed in an ever-darkening sea of exploitation. & we are being busted, fragment by fragment, by the broken aims of the most powerful force any of us has ever witnessed). JMHO
Between Leukemia & vile deeds of our politicians & their pundits, …I’m coming apart.
Let’s hope our willingness to talk and reason and rise to effort can lead us, individually & en masse, to a time of enlightenment ..before we become what a mighty sum are apparently intent on shaping us into:
`Roads Of Germany` by Bob Geldof
I'm driving on the road that Hitler built
I'm driving on the road that Hitler built
This is the place where history stopped to shit
And I'm driving on the road that Hitler built
I'm driving on the road that Stalin built next
There's more holes in Joe's than Adolf's
But what would you expect
I wonder what the Germans did
To fall from history's nest
And I'm driving on the road that Stalin built next
On the roads of Germany
On the roads of Germany
These are the roads of the 20th century
And there's blood and steel and leather
Mixed into that concrete
When you're riding on the roads of high Germany
I'm cruising on Konrad's Autobahn
Konrad's got a Beetle and Ludwig a Trabant
And Willy's got a Merc and Erich's got a tank
But that road only took me to a concrete dead end trap
We're driving on the road that never ends
All roads lead to exit signs and then they start again
And Helmut's building on the wheel of history as it spins
And history never ends 'cause it's too busy beginning
On the roads of Germany
On the roads of Germany
These are the roads of the 20th century
And there's blood and steel and leather
Mixed into that concrete
When you're riding on the roads of high Germany
And I'm walking in a Black Forest lane
And I step into the trees for to get some leafy shade
And I fall asleep in some dappled sunlit glade
And I dream and in my dream I am lost and afraid
And it grows dark, it grows damp and I shiver and I'm cold
And deep inside the forest something obscenely old
Stirs and shakes and comes awake and in it's putrid pit
It belches and it squirms in its own dirt and filth
And slithers on it's stinking slime while everything holds its breath
And its slow thighs, blank eyes pitiless as the past
Reborn from its fitful sleep, its hour come again at last
Slouches towards its own Jerusalem to be re-cast
And in my horror I recognize myself in it as it passes
Familiar and repulsive and as old as mortal man
This philosophy of brutality, ignorance and hate
Buried deep in everyone waiting to escape
And you must kill it before it kills you and everything in its wake
And I take my knife and I kill it, and it screams and then I wake
And I'm terrified and horrified and in this mortal state
I stagger toward the curbside of the 4 lane motorway
"Drive" I say and we drive and soon I stop shaking
But I can't stop thinking 'bout these dreams and revelations
Except it's not a dream it's real and it's of our own making
And it's not just Germany it's everywhere and the whole world is a-quaking
As we turn onto this road we all seem to be taking
And you can't help thinking these things on the roads of Germany
–--
intellectually masturbatin while the radio was playin
intellectually masturbatin while the radio was playin
M
messybear
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I gota admit: Prior to Cassandra’s post, I was conflicted with issues of RIGHTS vs. common courtesy. Hence the `flag burning` metaphor, which, although misguided, forms it’s basic reasoning from notions of a golden rule and common sense & consideration. I mean, you would not introduce yourself to a child undergoing Leukemia treatment by saying, “Yikes, little girl, you look like a apace alien; those eyes! In fact all of you look the same, like a space alien..in the headlights!” As an American you were born with the inalienable right to free speech, yes, but you also usually gauge your words to suit the variables of appropriateness and etiquette. And so I WAS conflicted. ..BUT the Ground Zero Mosque concept is a determinedly [gross] misdirection of all rules of decency & consideration, and rights & privileges --- and for sake of win-at-all-costs politics.
It is pathetic. And..Pathetic is no way to preserve customs and traditions. Pathetic is no way to maintain a sense of self and community. And in a time when the frog is in the pot and the heat is steadily rising, PATHETIC is no way to evolve. Is it, Sir & Madam Politician, Ms. & Mr. Pundit? ..Is it?
~~
In addition: Just a few minutes ago (as I looked back at my notes to make sure I said what I came to say) a couple of wise guys (thanx, wise guys) passed this lucid editorial on to the attentive, and I believe..herein..is THE definitive memorandum to the people and our `leaders`.
[Sorry no embed, but the link works..and it is really worth the extra effort, ..really..]
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38730223/ns/msnbc_tv-countdown_with_keith_olbermann/
As a people, I hope we are able to heed the wisdoms and carry the news.… (We’re due.)
With the constant provocation via twisted information and purposeful politically rooted propaganda, it is SO easy to forget the basic human values that most of us uphold. & the source cause of this horrific civic mismanagement of we, the people, is the preposterous preponderance of our politicians (who work from a palette of broken aims, motivated by wrongnesses nearly indefinable anymore, and yet they have the lion’s share of the floor, they own or are indebted to the lion’s share of the floor, and we are immersed in an ever-darkening sea of exploitation. & we are being busted, fragment by fragment, by the broken aims of the most powerful force any of us has ever witnessed). JMHO
Between Leukemia & vile deeds of our politicians & their pundits, …I’m coming apart.
Let’s hope our willingness to talk and reason and rise to effort can lead us, individually & en masse, to a time of enlightenment ..before we become what a mighty sum are apparently intent on shaping us into:
`Roads Of Germany` by Bob Geldof
I'm driving on the road that Hitler built
I'm driving on the road that Hitler built
This is the place where history stopped to shit
And I'm driving on the road that Hitler built
I'm driving on the road that Stalin built next
There's more holes in Joe's than Adolf's
But what would you expect
I wonder what the Germans did
To fall from history's nest
And I'm driving on the road that Stalin built next
On the roads of Germany
On the roads of Germany
These are the roads of the 20th century
And there's blood and steel and leather
Mixed into that concrete
When you're riding on the roads of high Germany
I'm cruising on Konrad's Autobahn
Konrad's got a Beetle and Ludwig a Trabant
And Willy's got a Merc and Erich's got a tank
But that road only took me to a concrete dead end trap
We're driving on the road that never ends
All roads lead to exit signs and then they start again
And Helmut's building on the wheel of history as it spins
And history never ends 'cause it's too busy beginning
On the roads of Germany
On the roads of Germany
These are the roads of the 20th century
And there's blood and steel and leather
Mixed into that concrete
When you're riding on the roads of high Germany
And I'm walking in a Black Forest lane
And I step into the trees for to get some leafy shade
And I fall asleep in some dappled sunlit glade
And I dream and in my dream I am lost and afraid
And it grows dark, it grows damp and I shiver and I'm cold
And deep inside the forest something obscenely old
Stirs and shakes and comes awake and in it's putrid pit
It belches and it squirms in its own dirt and filth
And slithers on it's stinking slime while everything holds its breath
And its slow thighs, blank eyes pitiless as the past
Reborn from its fitful sleep, its hour come again at last
Slouches towards its own Jerusalem to be re-cast
And in my horror I recognize myself in it as it passes
Familiar and repulsive and as old as mortal man
This philosophy of brutality, ignorance and hate
Buried deep in everyone waiting to escape
And you must kill it before it kills you and everything in its wake
And I take my knife and I kill it, and it screams and then I wake
And I'm terrified and horrified and in this mortal state
I stagger toward the curbside of the 4 lane motorway
"Drive" I say and we drive and soon I stop shaking
But I can't stop thinking 'bout these dreams and revelations
Except it's not a dream it's real and it's of our own making
And it's not just Germany it's everywhere and the whole world is a-quaking
As we turn onto this road we all seem to be taking
And you can't help thinking these things on the roads of Germany
–--
intellectually masturbatin while the radio was playin
intellectually masturbatin while the radio was playin
posted 2010.08.19
posted on August 19th 2010
M
messybear
location: Lunging gusts from deep in the heart of N/A disillusionment....
listening to: @l'sBU2; JW'sBU2; PJbootlegs; BGeldofMix; RWatersMix; Aussie Feast o’DVDs; Boomtwn •Triage XRuddMix
registered: 2005.11.13
posts: 4219
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And on it goes... – EEE on August 17th, 2010-
Re: And on it goes... – messybear on August 17th, 2010-
Re: Coda – messybear on August 19th, 2010
Re: And on it goes... – MJG on August 17th, 2010
Re: And on it goes... – Don_Lee on August 17th, 2010-
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Re: And on it goes... – rosskolnikov on August 19th, 2010-
Re: And on it goes... – pkjensen on August 19th, 2010-
Re: And on it goes... – rosskolnikov on August 20th, 2010
Read Cassandra's post... – EEE on August 18th, 2010
Re: And on it goes... – heathcliffe on August 17th, 2010
Re: And on it goes... – cassandra on August 18th, 2010-
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this will make you feel better Eric – big@l on August 18th, 2010-
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Kind of missed it... – EEE on August 18th, 2010-
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What's creepy to me, though... – EEE on August 22nd, 2010-
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Did you even read it? – EEE on August 22nd, 2010-
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Re: Did you even read it? – messybear on August 22nd, 2010-
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Re: been readin it n readin it for decades – messybear on August 23rd, 2010
I'd say... – Reg on August 25th, 2010
Have to admit...DL...you have completely lost me..... – EEE on August 22nd, 2010-
Re: Have to admit...DL...you have completely lost me..... – Don_Lee on August 23rd, 2010
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Don't know if you were being sarcastic or what..... – EEE on August 19th, 2010-
Re: Don't know if you were being sarcastic or what..... – MJG on August 19th, 2010
Re: Don't know if you were being sarcastic or what..... – randym on August 20th, 2010
Re: And on it goes... – Dan on August 19th, 2010
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Re: And on it goes... – mick on August 19th, 2010-
Re: And on it goes... – heathcliffe on August 19th, 2010
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