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And, it's not a mosque. It's the Muslim equivalent of the YMCA with a prayer room. The group (the Cordoba Initiative) that wants to build the community center has been running prayer meetings next door for years. There's another mosque a few blocks away on Chambers Street. This is exactly as it should be. New York is the same thriving, diverse metropolis that it always has been.And, from The Atlantic's Jeffery Goldberg:If He Could, Bin Laden Would Bomb the Cordoba Initiative
This seems like such an obvious point, but it is apparently not obvious to the many people who oppose the Cordoba Initiative's planned mosque in lower Manhattan, so let me state it as clearly as possible: The Cordoba Initiative, which is headed by an imam named Feisal Abdul Rauf, is an enemy of al Qaeda, no less than Rudolph Giuliani and the Anti-Defamation League are enemies of al Qaeda. Bin Laden would sooner dispatch a truck bomb to destroy the Cordoba Initiative's proposed community center than he would attack the ADL, for the simple reason that Osama's most dire enemies are Muslims. This is quantitatively true, of course -- al Qaeda and its ideological affiliates have murdered thousands of Muslims -- but it is ideologically true as well: al Qaeda's goal is the purification of Islam (that is to say, its extreme understanding of Islam) and apostates pose more of a threat to Bin Laden's understanding of Islam than do infidels.I know Feisal Abdul Rauf; I've spoken with him at a public discussion at the 96th street mosque in New York about interfaith cooperation. He represents what Bin Laden fears most: a Muslim who believes that it is possible to remain true to the values of Islam and, at the same time, to be a loyal citizen of a Western, non-Muslim country. Bin Laden wants a clash of civilizations; the opponents of the mosque project are giving him what he wants.
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And, it's not a mosque. It's the Muslim equivalent of the YMCA with a prayer room. The group (the Cordoba Initiative) that wants to build the community center has been running prayer meetings next door for years. There's another mosque a few blocks away on Chambers Street. This is exactly as it should be. New York is the same thriving, diverse metropolis that it always has been.And, from The Atlantic's Jeffery Goldberg:If He Could, Bin Laden Would Bomb the Cordoba Initiative
This seems like such an obvious point, but it is apparently not obvious to the many people who oppose the Cordoba Initiative's planned mosque in lower Manhattan, so let me state it as clearly as possible: The Cordoba Initiative, which is headed by an imam named Feisal Abdul Rauf, is an enemy of al Qaeda, no less than Rudolph Giuliani and the Anti-Defamation League are enemies of al Qaeda. Bin Laden would sooner dispatch a truck bomb to destroy the Cordoba Initiative's proposed community center than he would attack the ADL, for the simple reason that Osama's most dire enemies are Muslims. This is quantitatively true, of course -- al Qaeda and its ideological affiliates have murdered thousands of Muslims -- but it is ideologically true as well: al Qaeda's goal is the purification of Islam (that is to say, its extreme understanding of Islam) and apostates pose more of a threat to Bin Laden's understanding of Islam than do infidels.I know Feisal Abdul Rauf; I've spoken with him at a public discussion at the 96th street mosque in New York about interfaith cooperation. He represents what Bin Laden fears most: a Muslim who believes that it is possible to remain true to the values of Islam and, at the same time, to be a loyal citizen of a Western, non-Muslim country. Bin Laden wants a clash of civilizations; the opponents of the mosque project are giving him what he wants.
posted 2010.08.18
posted on August 18th 2010
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And on it goes... – EEE on August 17th, 2010-
Re: And on it goes... – messybear on August 17th, 2010-
Re: Coda – messybear on August 19th, 2010
Re: And on it goes... – MJG on August 17th, 2010
Re: And on it goes... – Don_Lee on August 17th, 2010-
Re: And on it goes... – pkjensen on August 17th, 2010-
Re: And on it goes... – rosskolnikov on August 19th, 2010-
Re: And on it goes... – pkjensen on August 19th, 2010-
Re: And on it goes... – rosskolnikov on August 20th, 2010
Read Cassandra's post... – EEE on August 18th, 2010
Re: And on it goes... – heathcliffe on August 17th, 2010
Re: And on it goes... – cassandra on August 18th, 2010-
Re: And on it goes... – heathcliffe on August 18th, 2010-
this will make you feel better Eric – big@l on August 18th, 2010-
Re: this will not make you feel better Eric – mick on August 18th, 2010-
Kind of missed it... – EEE on August 18th, 2010-
Re: Kind of missed it... – heathcliffe on August 18th, 2010-
Re: Kind of missed it... – messybear on August 18th, 2010-
Re: Kind of missed it... – Kevin on August 20th, 2010-
Re: Kind of missed it... – messybear on August 21st, 2010
Re: Kind of missed it... – Don_Lee on August 18th, 2010
Re: Kind of missed it... – Andrea on August 22nd, 2010-
What's creepy to me, though... – EEE on August 22nd, 2010-
Re: What's creepy to me, though... – Don_Lee on August 22nd, 2010-
Did you even read it? – EEE on August 22nd, 2010-
Re: Did you even read it? – Don_Lee on August 22nd, 2010-
Re: Did you even read it? – messybear on August 22nd, 2010-
Re: Did you even read it? – Don_Lee on August 22nd, 2010-
Re: Did you even read it? – messybear on August 22nd, 2010-
Re: Did you even read it? – Don_Lee on August 23rd, 2010-
Re: been readin it n readin it for decades – messybear on August 23rd, 2010
I'd say... – Reg on August 25th, 2010
Have to admit...DL...you have completely lost me..... – EEE on August 22nd, 2010-
Re: Have to admit...DL...you have completely lost me..... – Don_Lee on August 23rd, 2010
Re: And on it goes... – randym on August 19th, 2010-
Don't know if you were being sarcastic or what..... – EEE on August 19th, 2010-
Re: Don't know if you were being sarcastic or what..... – MJG on August 19th, 2010
Re: Don't know if you were being sarcastic or what..... – randym on August 20th, 2010
Re: And on it goes... – Dan on August 19th, 2010
Re: And on it goes... – pkjensen on August 19th, 2010-
Re: And on it goes... – mick on August 19th, 2010-
Re: And on it goes... – heathcliffe on August 19th, 2010
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