Green Mtn
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listening to: Grandchildren, the best reason for saving the future.
registered: 2004.04.03
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I believe fossil fuel is a misnomer. I believe the abiotic response.
That oil is a natural byproduct of the inner goings-on of the earth
seeping up into pockets near the surface, like perspiration through
the pores. Wells do refill. So as you'd expect, I believe peak oil to
be another bag of fearmongering. Further, there's loads of oil
capped off in Alaska, and Texas, in the Gulf Coast, and so on, there
is no shortage.
(Read PNAC, all this BS in the neareast is about empire, a
means of
leverage; and out of view, the initial stages of securing an other
means to control the planet politically by way of possessing the
greatest portion possible of the worlds energy supply. As a guy
who digs systems: I admire the scope, and loathe the human
degradation. Which is why I do not support any form of marxism,
whether progressivism, socialism, communism or fascism. There
are better ways. Humanity expanding ways.)
However, I do favor moving away from our realiance on oil. In
fact,
I've been pondering a book for bettern two decades on how
mankind could live more, shall we say, 'in-tune' with our
environment. I absolutely believe we have the technology to make
virtually every home in the world entirely self sufficient. By that I
mean electricity, waste disposal, the whole shooting match. And I
believe, not unlike yourself, that it should be a national priority,
but it is not. And we both know why it won't be.
Where you and I 'seem' to differ, is that I believe private
enterprise
should provide the impetus rather than government involvement. I
would have no problem with any President, Governor, etc, doing
their Bully Pulpit spiel or sixteen; but more government spending is
counter productive in the long term and we both know agencies(&
their bureaucracies rarely bow out of existence).
We're only running out of time because, it's an other means
of
rapidly herding American humanity, and all useless eaters. In
addition, the scarcity angle, also provides a rationale for raising
prices. Which as you surely recall, follows along with John D's
rationale of controlling ownership of manufacture and distribution,
which too allowed for price manipulation.
Educating the middle class is not in the cards sir. The goal
here is
to reduce the American middle class to a small merchant class,
think Mr Scrooge. Study recent decades curriculum and its endless
supply of new and improved methods that provided successively
poorer results.
I was listening to this fella Thom Hartmann recently. He's a
Progressive. Predominantly I disagree with his choice of solutions,
or means anyhow. But, he explained something a few weeks ago
that rang so true.
Thom Hartmann's premise:
The stablest, most manageable society is not one with a large
middle class but rather, a minute elite, dictating to a somewhat
larger merchant middle class, with the remainder of us Bob
Crachetts with no economic mobility, free time to agitate or
organize etc.
The key to this model is stability and ease of population
management.
He argues there have only been two periods of the truly
American
ideal of laissez faire economics in our history which created a large
middle class: the middle 18th century leading up and into the
revolution and following WWII.
I'm not absolutely certain he is correct in those facts but I
agree
that the alternative is the natural order of things, widespread
serfdom overseen by the few.
It only makes sense that there are folks of means who dream
of
achieving such ends, and even more who will fall for it; especially
in the white-out of our present, seemingly endless, plenty.
I could go on sir but you might want to be a pop star again.-)
peaceably
ps However Triage is described, it's truly unique listening,
and
how
cocky must you have been feeling based on that dedication. Have
you ever seen it mentioned in any reviews? I haven't. And I'd
prefer believe you're the kind of man who wrote it understanding
the probable repercussions(in either case, it unmasked conviction).
–--
“Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions.” Wm O. Douglas
“Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions.” Wm O. Douglas
G
Green Mtn
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I believe fossil fuel is a misnomer. I believe the abiotic response.
That oil is a natural byproduct of the inner goings-on of the earth
seeping up into pockets near the surface, like perspiration through
the pores. Wells do refill. So as you'd expect, I believe peak oil to
be another bag of fearmongering. Further, there's loads of oil
capped off in Alaska, and Texas, in the Gulf Coast, and so on, there
is no shortage.
(Read PNAC, all this BS in the neareast is about empire, a
means of
leverage; and out of view, the initial stages of securing an other
means to control the planet politically by way of possessing the
greatest portion possible of the worlds energy supply. As a guy
who digs systems: I admire the scope, and loathe the human
degradation. Which is why I do not support any form of marxism,
whether progressivism, socialism, communism or fascism. There
are better ways. Humanity expanding ways.)
However, I do favor moving away from our realiance on oil. In
fact,
I've been pondering a book for bettern two decades on how
mankind could live more, shall we say, 'in-tune' with our
environment. I absolutely believe we have the technology to make
virtually every home in the world entirely self sufficient. By that I
mean electricity, waste disposal, the whole shooting match. And I
believe, not unlike yourself, that it should be a national priority,
but it is not. And we both know why it won't be.
Where you and I 'seem' to differ, is that I believe private
enterprise
should provide the impetus rather than government involvement. I
would have no problem with any President, Governor, etc, doing
their Bully Pulpit spiel or sixteen; but more government spending is
counter productive in the long term and we both know agencies(&
their bureaucracies rarely bow out of existence).
We're only running out of time because, it's an other means
of
rapidly herding American humanity, and all useless eaters. In
addition, the scarcity angle, also provides a rationale for raising
prices. Which as you surely recall, follows along with John D's
rationale of controlling ownership of manufacture and distribution,
which too allowed for price manipulation.
Educating the middle class is not in the cards sir. The goal
here is
to reduce the American middle class to a small merchant class,
think Mr Scrooge. Study recent decades curriculum and its endless
supply of new and improved methods that provided successively
poorer results.
I was listening to this fella Thom Hartmann recently. He's a
Progressive. Predominantly I disagree with his choice of solutions,
or means anyhow. But, he explained something a few weeks ago
that rang so true.
Thom Hartmann's premise:
The stablest, most manageable society is not one with a large
middle class but rather, a minute elite, dictating to a somewhat
larger merchant middle class, with the remainder of us Bob
Crachetts with no economic mobility, free time to agitate or
organize etc.
The key to this model is stability and ease of population
management.
He argues there have only been two periods of the truly
American
ideal of laissez faire economics in our history which created a large
middle class: the middle 18th century leading up and into the
revolution and following WWII.
I'm not absolutely certain he is correct in those facts but I
agree
that the alternative is the natural order of things, widespread
serfdom overseen by the few.
It only makes sense that there are folks of means who dream
of
achieving such ends, and even more who will fall for it; especially
in the white-out of our present, seemingly endless, plenty.
I could go on sir but you might want to be a pop star again.-)
peaceably
ps However Triage is described, it's truly unique listening,
and
how
cocky must you have been feeling based on that dedication. Have
you ever seen it mentioned in any reviews? I haven't. And I'd
prefer believe you're the kind of man who wrote it understanding
the probable repercussions(in either case, it unmasked conviction).
–--
“Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions.” Wm O. Douglas
“Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions.” Wm O. Douglas
posted 2007.02.16
posted on February 16th 2007
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Green Mtn
location: Observing the Progressive madness with considerably less amusement.
listening to: Grandchildren, the best reason for saving the future.
registered: 2004.04.03
posts: 2617
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Re: An experiment that hints we are wrong on climate change – Baerwald on February 16th, 2007
Re: An experiment that hints we are wrong on climate change – dale on February 12th, 2007
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