Reg is right Par. He's got this situation sized up better than you do apparently. I wish you were a Christian Reg, but then that's my prayer for everyone, friend and foe alike. My world view includes places like Heaven and Hell.

GW ain't no Christian Brother Pat. It's a con job. The evidence is plain. Fear not, your eyes will be unavoidably opened very soon. Between the new domestic intelligence service GW just set up, CAFTA, the recent Supreme Court decisions undermining rights, the New Freedom Initiative GW executive ordered into existence, the 2nd round of Homeland Security, I'd say the gloves are about to come off.

Too, did you hear about the Brother who was just fired from All State Insurance for stating beliefs the scriptures teach. And what about that family values guy GW inviting Elton John and spouse-to- be)in Feb) to a private event at the White House immediately after being sworn in for his second term. And what was that about siding with life where Terry Schiavo was concerned. If you bought it, GW was blowin smoke up your skirt Brother. Meaningless lip service that required no political capital expenditure and changed absolutely nothing. Nothing Pat. Just like our recent prolife Presidents have spent no capital to change abortion, or anything else that might be considered meaningful to a Christian. GHW Bush changed his tune to prolife during the '80 election cycle in order to become VP. That told me all I needed to known about GHW's character and trustworthiness. Has Dubya said anything about this eminent domain ruling? How about the Ten Commandments rulings.

Should I be offended Pat? Are you suggesting I am not a Christian? Or I don't deserve an opinion? And when was the last time you took a public stand for Jesus?

Questions Brother. Better open your eyes, because the Christian Right will not prevail, they're scheduled for sacrifice like Reg is pointing out so well. And since when does the scripture teach Christians will take over anything in this lifetime? The scriptures say we are a peculiar people and this world in its present state isn't our home because we're 'spose to be putting our treasure where?

Even if you didn't want to hear it, there ya go. Refute it. Let's see how deceived you really are. I mean, supporting the Bush's...and as some sort of Christian supporters, that's priceless.