I know but I had a human perspective for a moment, away from the grand designs and good versus evil struggle on a world wide scale...I was wandering back from lunch thinking how clever Islam is like Freud...unsinkable...there's no room for doubters in it you belive or die and I just wilt when I think about our individual and collective destinies in the light of the funlessdamentalism...have you read occult science...by Steiner? the stuff about phases of evolution...my destiny is to start a thread, leave work about the time you all log on and either catch up later tonight or miss a potentially sensational debate which this site is great for...kent need your address