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Take a second to read this:
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/02/rick-gates-robert-mueller-
donald-
trump
Before you continue to read what I have to say. That's not fake news.
It
is a sourced article that includes facts, Marc.
I see no need to rehash the election as you are doing in that
response.
You and I spoke, here on this board, about what Moore was saying more
than once and I told you Moore was not the only one that saw that...I
agreed with him...and there is plenty of blame to go around. Mostly, I
blame the Democrats, the ones that run the DNC and the party, for the
loss to Trump.
Trump was TRYING to lose. That was why he was such a loose cannon
during
the election. He was not running to become president, he was running to
become in his words "the most famous man in the world."
Trump did not want to be president he wanted to have his own cable
channel and he thought Roger Ailes and Rupert Murdoch (who Trump
absolutely worships and bows down to) would help him do so. Trump wanted
to be just another TV grenade thrower, telling lies 24/7 on his own
channel. You see Trump was never a good business man...he's a moron...and
so after 6 bankruptcies and all kinds of failures Trump found a
niche...bullshitting on television and licencing out his name. Trump's
history is he is a huckster and scam artist that does not pay his bills
or his taxes.
The 6 bankruptcies are the key here though to how Trump was bought by
the
Russians. Trump was shut off from funding in the United States. Nobody
would loan him money. Contractors did not want to work on his jobs
because he was known to stiff people. So, Trump as a developer crashed
and burned.
However, who came knocking when Trump was over a billion in debt and
scrambling around looking for ways to scam people out of more money?
That's right, the Russians. Loaded oligarchs that were pals with
Putin
that had money they needed laundered and so Trump started moving Russian
money through his casino and real estate projects. Selling the Russians
properties nobody else
wanted to buy at costs nobody else would pay...why did the Russians do
this? They had to get rid of the cash and turn it into something else.
In other words they developed Trump into an asset. Trump could not
get
money to build his beloved golf clubs because nobody in the US would give
him cash. So, as Trump was building golf courses at a time in the US when
even people with good credit could not get money to build a golf course
because they were considered bad investments this got noticed. Trump was
supposedly broke, or cash poor, and so certainly did not have the cash
himself to build these courses so where was the money coming from? Nobody
in the USA would loan this scum money.
Well, people asked and the Trump family answered the question...the
Russians. So, while the USA had turned it's back on Trump and for good
reason, he was scum that did not pay his debts, the Russians were willing
to throw cash at him.
Trump, a man well known for having zero loyalty to anybody, zero
loyalty
to anything...except his own wallet, found a country he could believe
in...Russia. The Russians seemed to have never ending piles of cash to
throw at Trump. They treated him wonderfully. They entertained him. Flew
him to Russia even and Trump fell all over himself attempting to get in
with these Russians that seemed to have money to burn. These were his
kind of people. They had lots of cash to give him and they did not ask
any questions...and neither did Trump. Trump even wanted to build a
"Trump Tower" in Russia.
Not surprisingly this also got the attention of intelligence services
and
law enforcement. The file on Trump and his Russian connections was opened
probably some time around 1984. In the 1980s and 1990s the US government
saw Russian investment in real estate, by Russian mobsters, skyrocket.
The Russians were laundering money buying real estate, and were totally
willing to overpay for it, because it was a simple and easy way to turn
their dirty cash they had to move into cash that appeared clean.
And guess who was right in the middle of this...that's right, your
boy
Donny.
Now, this is just the beginning of the story but I suggest you go and
read this article because why take what I am saying as true. This is all
backed up by facts, Marc...not "fake news" and not an invention...
https://newrepublic.com/article/143586/trumps-russian-
laundromat-trump-
tower-luxury-high-rises-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate
Here's the thing though, long before Trump ran for president our
government knew he was dirty and compromised by the Russians. I don't
think anybody thought he would actually get elected president even long
before he ran.
You want to know why Trump and his pals promote this "Deep State"
conspiracy stuff? Because they know he was compromised and bought by the
Russians years ago. They know the intelligence services have the goods on
Trump and Trump was always an idiot so he was easily played by the
Russians and because of his stupidity made it easy for the intelligence
community to track him.
So, yes, when Trump first sat his big fat ass down in 1600
Pennsylvania
Avenue as "president" of the United States...they already knew the guy
was as dirty and compromised as they come. As Steve Bannon has said, and
Steve Bannon should know as he took part, "treasonous" and "unpatriotic"
are words that best describe Trump.
This is why the Russians were here, in our country, working to help elect
Trump. This is why Trump will not enact sanctions on Russia. This is why
Trump wants to destroy the Magnitsky Act. This is why Trump will talk
trash about our law enforcement and intelligence services...the people
that put their lives on the line to protect our country every day...and
speak warmly about Putin. He actually says he believes Putin over our
intelligence and law enforcement people. And he even does this while in
foreign countries...literally attempting to undermine the United States
and make us look bad.
That's pretty fucking disgusting and I can't even imagine what you
would
be saying if somebody named Clinton or Obama did that.
Robert Mueller caught the bad guys. Russians working in our country
to
interfere with a federal election and to defraud the people of the United
States.
And who is Trump loyal to? Who does Trump back when discussing this
stuff? Yup, Putin.
What should the president be doing, as well as the scumbag traitor
Republicans like Jim Jordan or Devin Nunes...they should be praising
Mueller for getting these bad guys. If Trump has done nothing wrong, is
not guilty, has nothing to worry about then he should be praising Mueller
and his investigation.
What is Trump doing? Acting guilty and afraid and continuing to
repeat
over and over "No collusion!" and why is Trump acting guilty and afraid?
Because he is guilty and afraid. Collusion is not the issue and not
what
he will be charged with.
You told me Trump's lawyers are smart...did you know two of them have
told people they believe Trump will be indicted? Did you know some of
them want to quit? Did you know that they feel they can't tell Trump the
truth about the investigation because they fear his reaction would put
him in further legal jeopardy because he is not a smart man and can't
control himself? Did you know some of his lawyers need lawyers because of
this investigation and their constant lying?
–--
'The only way to avoid getting crushed by absurdity, is to humbly include the absurd in our calculations.'
'The only way to avoid getting crushed by absurdity, is to humbly include the absurd in our calculations.'
Reg
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Take a second to read this:
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/02/rick-gates-robert-mueller-
donald-
trump
Before you continue to read what I have to say. That's not fake news.
It
is a sourced article that includes facts, Marc.
I see no need to rehash the election as you are doing in that
response.
You and I spoke, here on this board, about what Moore was saying more
than once and I told you Moore was not the only one that saw that...I
agreed with him...and there is plenty of blame to go around. Mostly, I
blame the Democrats, the ones that run the DNC and the party, for the
loss to Trump.
Trump was TRYING to lose. That was why he was such a loose cannon
during
the election. He was not running to become president, he was running to
become in his words "the most famous man in the world."
Trump did not want to be president he wanted to have his own cable
channel and he thought Roger Ailes and Rupert Murdoch (who Trump
absolutely worships and bows down to) would help him do so. Trump wanted
to be just another TV grenade thrower, telling lies 24/7 on his own
channel. You see Trump was never a good business man...he's a moron...and
so after 6 bankruptcies and all kinds of failures Trump found a
niche...bullshitting on television and licencing out his name. Trump's
history is he is a huckster and scam artist that does not pay his bills
or his taxes.
The 6 bankruptcies are the key here though to how Trump was bought by
the
Russians. Trump was shut off from funding in the United States. Nobody
would loan him money. Contractors did not want to work on his jobs
because he was known to stiff people. So, Trump as a developer crashed
and burned.
However, who came knocking when Trump was over a billion in debt and
scrambling around looking for ways to scam people out of more money?
That's right, the Russians. Loaded oligarchs that were pals with
Putin
that had money they needed laundered and so Trump started moving Russian
money through his casino and real estate projects. Selling the Russians
properties nobody else
wanted to buy at costs nobody else would pay...why did the Russians do
this? They had to get rid of the cash and turn it into something else.
In other words they developed Trump into an asset. Trump could not
get
money to build his beloved golf clubs because nobody in the US would give
him cash. So, as Trump was building golf courses at a time in the US when
even people with good credit could not get money to build a golf course
because they were considered bad investments this got noticed. Trump was
supposedly broke, or cash poor, and so certainly did not have the cash
himself to build these courses so where was the money coming from? Nobody
in the USA would loan this scum money.
Well, people asked and the Trump family answered the question...the
Russians. So, while the USA had turned it's back on Trump and for good
reason, he was scum that did not pay his debts, the Russians were willing
to throw cash at him.
Trump, a man well known for having zero loyalty to anybody, zero
loyalty
to anything...except his own wallet, found a country he could believe
in...Russia. The Russians seemed to have never ending piles of cash to
throw at Trump. They treated him wonderfully. They entertained him. Flew
him to Russia even and Trump fell all over himself attempting to get in
with these Russians that seemed to have money to burn. These were his
kind of people. They had lots of cash to give him and they did not ask
any questions...and neither did Trump. Trump even wanted to build a
"Trump Tower" in Russia.
Not surprisingly this also got the attention of intelligence services
and
law enforcement. The file on Trump and his Russian connections was opened
probably some time around 1984. In the 1980s and 1990s the US government
saw Russian investment in real estate, by Russian mobsters, skyrocket.
The Russians were laundering money buying real estate, and were totally
willing to overpay for it, because it was a simple and easy way to turn
their dirty cash they had to move into cash that appeared clean.
And guess who was right in the middle of this...that's right, your
boy
Donny.
Now, this is just the beginning of the story but I suggest you go and
read this article because why take what I am saying as true. This is all
backed up by facts, Marc...not "fake news" and not an invention...
https://newrepublic.com/article/143586/trumps-russian-
laundromat-trump-
tower-luxury-high-rises-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate
Here's the thing though, long before Trump ran for president our
government knew he was dirty and compromised by the Russians. I don't
think anybody thought he would actually get elected president even long
before he ran.
You want to know why Trump and his pals promote this "Deep State"
conspiracy stuff? Because they know he was compromised and bought by the
Russians years ago. They know the intelligence services have the goods on
Trump and Trump was always an idiot so he was easily played by the
Russians and because of his stupidity made it easy for the intelligence
community to track him.
So, yes, when Trump first sat his big fat ass down in 1600
Pennsylvania
Avenue as "president" of the United States...they already knew the guy
was as dirty and compromised as they come. As Steve Bannon has said, and
Steve Bannon should know as he took part, "treasonous" and "unpatriotic"
are words that best describe Trump.
This is why the Russians were here, in our country, working to help elect
Trump. This is why Trump will not enact sanctions on Russia. This is why
Trump wants to destroy the Magnitsky Act. This is why Trump will talk
trash about our law enforcement and intelligence services...the people
that put their lives on the line to protect our country every day...and
speak warmly about Putin. He actually says he believes Putin over our
intelligence and law enforcement people. And he even does this while in
foreign countries...literally attempting to undermine the United States
and make us look bad.
That's pretty fucking disgusting and I can't even imagine what you
would
be saying if somebody named Clinton or Obama did that.
Robert Mueller caught the bad guys. Russians working in our country
to
interfere with a federal election and to defraud the people of the United
States.
And who is Trump loyal to? Who does Trump back when discussing this
stuff? Yup, Putin.
What should the president be doing, as well as the scumbag traitor
Republicans like Jim Jordan or Devin Nunes...they should be praising
Mueller for getting these bad guys. If Trump has done nothing wrong, is
not guilty, has nothing to worry about then he should be praising Mueller
and his investigation.
What is Trump doing? Acting guilty and afraid and continuing to
repeat
over and over "No collusion!" and why is Trump acting guilty and afraid?
Because he is guilty and afraid. Collusion is not the issue and not
what
he will be charged with.
You told me Trump's lawyers are smart...did you know two of them have
told people they believe Trump will be indicted? Did you know some of
them want to quit? Did you know that they feel they can't tell Trump the
truth about the investigation because they fear his reaction would put
him in further legal jeopardy because he is not a smart man and can't
control himself? Did you know some of his lawyers need lawyers because of
this investigation and their constant lying?
–--
'The only way to avoid getting crushed by absurdity, is to humbly include the absurd in our calculations.'
'The only way to avoid getting crushed by absurdity, is to humbly include the absurd in our calculations.'
