Mincing words, Reg? (I got a chipmunk running up the inside of this spouting here to my right. I betcha they taught themselves to run the PVC flex-pipe up the lawn between the bird feeder mound and the hostas and then up the spouting to the gutter. Then into some tiny hole that isn't finished or calked, up into the rafters above filled insulation then down into the walls not so quietly..)