Icon See, this is why....can never get a straight answer..
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It's difficult having any sort of sincere debate with a conservative weaned on garbage like FoxNews, Human Events and other news delivered in the hyperventilated manner of the conservative form because those that do simply can't answer a simple answer.

And along with that, they use a very broad paintbrush to end debate by smearing all with the most extreme labels.

So I imaging all liberals to Pat are those that must be affiliated with Marx or any of the most of the extreme and simply can't be any with a keen taste for the US Constitution or basic human dignities.
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