I'll leave the IC part out for brevity, but I will concede that the voting machine issue needs to be addressed. 

I also understand too that part of the problem does live in the software.  But we can discuss that at another time. 

The argument that the machines were compromised every time a dem loses is getting damned old though.  It makes it seem like everybody that has any expertise to modify these machines is a conservative.  C'mon already.

What I was saying is that the left has just as many capable engineers too and I don't want to hear the "voting machines tampered with" excuse if the left fails to execute this time.

If we aren't all going to solve the problem together (that's been there for years), then at least get Dem moles to the polls like the GOP allegedly does.

And be willing to at least consider that John Kerry might have just dynamited more votes with just a few simple words than all of the evidence we'll probably see as a voting machine conspiracy.