stark raving brad
location: over here. no, over HERE. HERE!!! sigh. you dummy.
listening to: experience, strength, and hope
registered: 2002.05.16
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i do like me some billmon, but looking at Iran and North Korea
logically and with an idea or two about military realpolitik & force
technology/availabilty, i don't see us doing anything really -
besides sanctions - about North Korea...as Bush has basically
admitted recently. the Korean War taught us the futility, and while
we too often fail to apply hard lessons learned to current events
and conflicts, the state of affairs in Korea today tells us that
1.) we're out-trooped a million to...not many at all. they're all in
you-know-where and won't be..."cutting and running" anytime
soon.
2.) even without the glaring troop number inequity, the terrain is
completely prohibitive to a ground war. we would have air
superiority without question, but mines, ambushes, artillery, IEDs
and the like on the main roads to Pyongyang would slow to a
complete crawl any attempted push. losses would be [politically]
unacceptably high. and even if we took 'Baghdad East', then what?
we know how that one goes.
3.) MAD ensures that survival-minded maniac dictators don't press
that nukular button.
4.) Seoul could be easily leveled by NK artillery, yes, but we would
return the favor a hundred fold. i doubt that even KJ II is that nuts.in short, our military options for dealing with North Korea are
extremely slim. thus even Bush embraces more sanctions and a
slower approach.as for Iran, well, we could easily bomb a few sites that we think are
up to nukey chicanery. which would make us more popular
globally, even though clearly we don't give a hoot about that crap.
but a little shock and awe would certainly propel Iran to fervently
increase clandestine aid (read: boom boom stuff) to Iraqi shit-
disturbers, further increasing our casualty figures there, perhaps
drastically. and we know how well those numbers sit with the
American voter. the more of our kids die, the more we want 'em
home, regardless of where that leaves Iraqis or Israelis or anyone
else.not that these macho neo-con warmonger maniacs won't do
something rash anyway, especially with recent polls worrying them
into thinking that they need to scare people further and/or make
another strong military statement in order to maintain control of
gov't. if such foolishness occurs, the blowback could make Iraq
look like a picnic. complicated issues like these require incredibly
logical, well-informed and long-sighted decision making, and
based on the last 6 years it would not appear that we are blessed
with an administration with those characteristics. i'd love to be
wrong on this one.
S
stark raving brad
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i do like me some billmon, but looking at Iran and North Korea
logically and with an idea or two about military realpolitik & force
technology/availabilty, i don't see us doing anything really -
besides sanctions - about North Korea...as Bush has basically
admitted recently. the Korean War taught us the futility, and while
we too often fail to apply hard lessons learned to current events
and conflicts, the state of affairs in Korea today tells us that
1.) we're out-trooped a million to...not many at all. they're all in
you-know-where and won't be..."cutting and running" anytime
soon.
2.) even without the glaring troop number inequity, the terrain is
completely prohibitive to a ground war. we would have air
superiority without question, but mines, ambushes, artillery, IEDs
and the like on the main roads to Pyongyang would slow to a
complete crawl any attempted push. losses would be [politically]
unacceptably high. and even if we took 'Baghdad East', then what?
we know how that one goes.
3.) MAD ensures that survival-minded maniac dictators don't press
that nukular button.
4.) Seoul could be easily leveled by NK artillery, yes, but we would
return the favor a hundred fold. i doubt that even KJ II is that nuts.in short, our military options for dealing with North Korea are
extremely slim. thus even Bush embraces more sanctions and a
slower approach.as for Iran, well, we could easily bomb a few sites that we think are
up to nukey chicanery. which would make us more popular
globally, even though clearly we don't give a hoot about that crap.
but a little shock and awe would certainly propel Iran to fervently
increase clandestine aid (read: boom boom stuff) to Iraqi shit-
disturbers, further increasing our casualty figures there, perhaps
drastically. and we know how well those numbers sit with the
American voter. the more of our kids die, the more we want 'em
home, regardless of where that leaves Iraqis or Israelis or anyone
else.not that these macho neo-con warmonger maniacs won't do
something rash anyway, especially with recent polls worrying them
into thinking that they need to scare people further and/or make
another strong military statement in order to maintain control of
gov't. if such foolishness occurs, the blowback could make Iraq
look like a picnic. complicated issues like these require incredibly
logical, well-informed and long-sighted decision making, and
based on the last 6 years it would not appear that we are blessed
with an administration with those characteristics. i'd love to be
wrong on this one.
