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PatBrown (view)

You know, I sit back and watch what is going on with Iraq and see a huge chess game between democrats and republicans with the young military members being the playing pieces. My arguments have nothing really to do with being a liberal, conservative, moderate, extremist or any other poorly defined label.

So you are of the opinion that the US is not under threat from Iraq either now of in the forseeable future? How do you explain the fact that
now 70% to 75% of the people now support the presidents action toward Iraq. Is Bush as good a speaker as Clinton? No. Is Bush an idot? No.
Is he more trustworthy than say Clinton. Absolutely. I think he feels as do the 70% to 75% of Americans that what happened on 9/11 is just the tip of what could come. Do I feel we are under imminent threat from Iraq. No I do not. But I have watched the complaceny that the U.S has slid into over the past year. Had Bush asked for this on November of last year it would have been a landslide but we waited a year. He said in early addresses to the nation that this would not be a quick engagement. I guess some just thought he was kidding

Right now the party in the White House happens to be Republican and that party is acting in a shameful and disgusting manner. If that party really cared about the men and women in the military this debate would have been after the election. Instead Republicans used this debate to attempt to win back the Senate and when some other politician appeared to dissent, he or she was painted as unpatriotic. And that is the point.

Real, honest and sincere debate was prevented by terrible rotten basic politics and those who claim honor should have protected the lives of our young armed forces members.

When I was in the service and in the Middle East for our first excursion, I was older, wiser and more mature than most other young soldiers. I could see through the clearer forms of political persuasion, but these young people want to believe in American ideals and depend on our leaders to protect them and only put them in harms way when a true need exists. Our leaders have failed to do this and in this instance it is primarily the Republicans. OUR President could have stopped this debate and been a TRUE leader if he had simply stated, "I want a full, honest and sincere debate where all members of Congress can truthfully express their thoughts without fear of politics and elections."

You are asking for the impossible here. It always comes down to politics and elections. It comed to retaining the power and what is involved in keeping it

But this was not done and the last point that seems to point to the truth in all of this is that those with combat experience have been expressing prudence and calm while those without want to break out the dogs of war.

 Do you have any facts or figures to support this statement . So is this like 2% of those with combat experience or 50%?
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