There are people who think the best way to potty train a puppy is by rubbing its face in their excrement. I think that's a barbaric approach.

But Ive recently been wandering around in the archives of this board from 20+ years past, and I wish that Richard and Dale and their like were still around so I could do just that to them, substituting their own words and opinions for puppy shit, and rubbing their faces into their own words. 

I do know that kevin g has recanted his positions, and is embarrassedly trying to make amends, and I take my hat off to him for that. It took a lot of courage for him to renounce his former friends in search of the actual truth. He has rubbed his own face in his own shit, and is a better if sadder man for it. But the unrepentantly stupid Pat Brown, and the more suavely stupid rosskolnikov show that kevin g is a rarity in that regard. It's an endless job, but so is doing dishes and making beds. The endlessness of it doesn't mean that we should stop doing our dishes.