KentDB741
location: Buffalo, New York USA
listening to: The sweet music of YES
registered: 2001.11.12
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Greetings:First of all, I would like to give my humblest apologies to David
Baerwald --- due to the continued and ever-present vitriol here
on the board which has been unfairly directed at me --- this is
my last-ever message to this message board. It is now time for
me to move on --- a decision which I am sure will please those of
you who have continually badgered me and fomented arguments,
effectively keeping me from my real work --- which I must now
go and finish.This brings me no pleasure because I have enjoyed all the
friendships I have made here --- those of you know who you are.
I have your e-mail addresses, and I will stay in touch. Also, I will
continue to monitor David's "career" such as it is at the moment. I
think it sucks that DB isn't on a label --- or wasn't willing or able
to start one of his own. David Baerwald always was and always
will be my own BOB DYLAN. His music has been deeply
intertwined in my life, and I will not stop enjoying the music, just
because I am leaving the website.I have come to the conclusion that there are a few of you around
here that are deeply screwed in the head --- such as the two or
three people who have been alleging that I post too much
information, and that this site somehow became the KDB
Infosource. What I found especially perplexing about these
statements --- was that they were made by three people who
posted MORE OFTEN to this board than I!!!The proof is on the DBIS Archives Page, which is located at:
http://www.dbinfosource.com/board/archive.aspWhile examining that page, the following information can be seen
and confirmed by all that read these words:Eugene = 537 posts / PatBrown = 532 posts / Kravitz = 498
posts / Dale = 484 posts / KentDB741 = 450 posts (this one
makes 451)Primarily the two people that bitched the most about my
frequency of posting were Pat and Dale --- both of whom have
more messages on the board than I do!So why don't we call it the DALEinfosource, or Pat's Playhouse?With that allegation swiftly laid to rest --- let me point out a post
that Pat recently directed at me (Wed Aug 20 2003 20:36:03
CDT):"I do enjoy reading some of your posts, but much more when
there aren't 17 of them every day. This is the DB Infosource, not
the KDB Infosource after all."I went through the posted archives (every bit of it!!) and at no
time have I ever left anywhere near that many messages.
Nevertheless, it was an interesting comment from someone who
has made 80 more posts to the message board than I. Also, Pat has been talking for quite awhile now about two new
features to this board that he wanted to implement --- the
quotes database and the media review database --- where
DBIS'ers can post their favorite book, CD, and DVD (plus whatever
else) reviews that we would like to "share" with the rest. However, the truth is that I am the only one here that regularily
posted CD, DVD, and BOOK reviews. There were a few others here
and there, but I was the only one who did this on a regular basis.
Also, with the quotes database, I posted 22 quotes. Everyone else
posted two or three, and that was about it. Pat also made a
comment about this both in public and in private e-mail. So, we
have a guy who wants people to use something he created, and
then he attacks the one person who has caught on to the intent of
what the thing was supposed to be in the first place. Congratulations Pat, you just effectively killed something you
created --- my intent was to share a few IDEAS with the rest here,
and I even told you that I COLLECT quotes, and I had hundreds
that I could have posted, if I wanted to be a complete asshole.
But, I didn't do that --- I wanted to encourage people to OPEN UP
a little around here, until people like you and Dale opened up
your uninformed skulls and ruined it for the few around here that
want to learn but who are afraid that their heads would be taken
off if they identified themselves publicly --- especially if they
happen to agree with me.I post CD and DVD reviews and then I get accusations that I must
be wealthy from a big medical settlement I am sitting on. Well,
just to clear up that bit of complete nonsense --- once again let
me say to everyone reading these words --- I got 1% of what I
was supposed to get. I do not know how ANYONE could equate
1% as being a large sum of money. But, the people who made
these types of comments did not let the fact that they were
completely uninformed stop them from making them. No
verification, no confirmation, no facts behind the statement.The reason why I brought up the HOME MORTGAGE issue, is
because most of you here have involved yourselves in one. I know
how to get a person out of a thirty-year mortgage in as little as
ten years, or in as little as one year --- if you have the balls and a
killer attorney. However, rather than shutting the fuck up and
learning something that could ultimately save each one of you
between $100,000 to $200,000 --- you preferred instead to
argue with me and tell me as Dale did that "I DON'T KNOW SHIT."
He made this comment after I told him that I have a degree in
finance, was a former stock broker, owned and managed my own
business for ten years, and had known how to avoid the home
mortgage trap for Paula and myself.You know what? Who fucking cares, right?If Dale and Pat and a couple of others like Kevin G want to think I
am Koo Koo for Coca-Puffs --- that's fine with me. I just want to
warn them that they can enjoy making all those house payments
under an illegal contract arrrangement. If they are that ignorant
that they cannot listen to a TENABLE SOLUTION --- then I should
just not bother anymore with what is ultimately for me --- a
complete waste of my time and effort.With regard to the bitching about the frequency and the length of
my posts --- as I have stated many times in the past --- time is
running out, folks. I do not have the luxury of time to dance
through the daisy fields with those of who that cannot handle real
information. Things are speeding up --- a person would have to
be completely brain dead to have not noticed this by now. There
was even a book entitled THE QUICKENING --- by the Illuminati
propagandist ART BELL --- which was published in 1997.In this book --- ART BELL --- makes the following statement on
pg. 309:"Where is THE QUICKENING taking us? Will there be a global
government with a 'benevolent' dictator, overseeing global law,
global police, and a global judiciary in an attempt to make the
world cleaner, peaceful, and prosperous? If that's what it takes to
achieve these ends, so be it." - ART BELL (The Quickening, pg.
309)THIS IS ACTUALLY IN A BOOK! This is what they have planned for your children, people.With the always gullable SHEEPLE accepting complete nonsense as
the official explanation of 9/11 --- the NEW WORLD ORDER
LIZARDS have stepped up their pace toward full out global
fascism. And with BU$H Jr. doing his best to start WWIII by
fucking with Korea --- it is only a matter of time before CHINA
starts threatening the USA to KNOCK IT OFF.Yes --- time is running out.The amount of information that I could have posted here would
have made each and every one of your heads spin --- I only
posted the BARE MINIMUM that I felt was REALLY IMPORTANT. For example, I recently posted information about a former school
teacher named JOHN TAYLOR GATTO. I later received an e-mail
from an Infosourcer who actually went out and purchased this
man's most important book. Because this person has a small child
--- reading the book I recommended will help make a better life
for both parent and child. It will change the way this child will be
raised --- and for that I am most grateful that at least one of you
listened to something that I had to say. And because this child is
not yet of the age Gatto says is beyond help --- this parent will
be able to save the child they love. I can think of no better gift to
give anyone. I am proud to have had even a small part in that. I also posted a public message awhile back --- in which I
announced that I was writing a book and that I would be using the
message board for research purposes. Since one of the most
important sections of the book is entitled THE POLITICS OF BELIEF
--- it was my place to float provocations and to play the role of
provocateur --- the fact that some of you have the attention span
of a small kitten --- forgot this entirely. The arguments that you
started or stoked was in response to deliberate nudges and digs.Thank you, you have provided me with some invaluable material
for my book. Don't worry though, you will remain anonymous. I
would not want to give any of you the satisfaction of being able to
later say that you appear in someone's book. Some others of you here cannot distinguish between OPINIONS
and FACTUAL INFORMATION. Each and every thing that I ever
posted about on this message board is contained somewhere
within my research. For instance --- one of the subjects about
which I posted that freaked out a few people such as Kevin G ---
was that of the UNDERGROUND MILITARY BASES. Kevin refused to
believe it, however I have GPS satellite coordinates of over 100 of
them. I have even visited the location of a few of them to verify
the information --- but that didn't stop Kevin from believing
whatever he wanted to about the matter. The POLITICS OF BELIEF has forced some of you to call my
conclusions EXTREME OPINIONS. However, the subjects I posted
about were not opinions --- they were FACTUAL CONCLUSIONS
based upon research using the scientific principle of verifiying the
data to insure it could be repeated. With proper application of the SCIENTIFIC METHOD and
MATHEMATICAL LOGIC --- the investigator goes wherever the
data takes them, and not merely bend the data to meet
presupposed ideas. The fact that some of you have alleged this of
me shows that you do not understand the concept of RESEARCH
and of how to obtain results. There was no possbile way I could
have had any sort of presupposed ideas --- because I was a
junior in high school when the Illuminati entered the periphery of
my life. I had never heard of it before then, and all I wanted to do
initially was figure out what the fuck happened to my own family. So, once again, you are WRONG about that.I even mentioned the details of how long, how much, and
provided details of some of the things in my archives. None of
this was ever taken seriously --- which was a pretty fucking big
insult to me personally --- and of all the 20,000+ hours of
research I have done over the past 23 years. Yet, I accurately
predicted what would happen with the SMALLPOX program of the
government --- more than six months before it was announced
by the White House --- I told you about it here first. But, even
when it is staring you in the face you cannot see it.The only conlusion I can come to is this --- if in the year 2003
--- the TRUTH is considered EXTREME --- then things are far
worse than I originally thought. You refuse to believe me even
though I have documentation --- but you will believe that a dead
man in a cave in Afganistan orchestrated the 9/11 attacks ---
and who was able to alter the laws of physics, force NORAD JETS
to STAND DOWN and coordinate attacks from four different
airports simultaneously. All from a cave! And the guy who
supposedly did this is DEAD! BUT THAT'S BELIEVEABLE?!?!?!?WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!?!?I also told all of you when we started out that some of this
information was not going to be pleasant. Who wants to find out
that what they thought was the best thing they ever did --- buy a
house --- is actually the biggest FUCK JOB they'll ever get?
However, those of you with children could have at least taken the
information and taught them to NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES
AS MOMMY AND DADDY when they grow up. How many of you actually went and calculated your mortgage
payment books --- to see what you are REALLY PAYING FOR
YOUR HOUSE? It's a shame --- class is now over --- the teacher is going home.One last thing I want to mention is this idea that people like Dale
and Pat have that I have driven people away from this site.
Another allegation that is ridiculous --- to say the least. I went
back to the earliest archives posted here online. I found at least
fifty people over the years that have stopped by for a moment ---
and then disappeared --- all before I even joined this board in
the fall of 2001. So, if such a large number of people left all on
their own --- BEFORE I EVEN JOINED --- how does that equte to
being my fault?The archives page contains posts from roughly 75 people. 18 of
those people have posted more than 100 messages --- I will call
this group THE DBIS REGULARS. As of the writing of this FINAL
MESSAGE --- this is the breakdown of who has posted how many
messages to this board:THE DBIS REGULARS (and number of posts for each - 08/23/03)01) Eugene / Gene = 537 DBIS posts02) PatBrown = 532 DBIS posts03) Kravitz = 498 DBIS posts04) Dale = 484 DBIS posts05) KentDB741 = 450 DBIS posts06) Kevin (may be multiple people) = 290 DBIS posts07) Andrea = 287 DBIS posts08) Dan Heatherly = 232 DBIS posts09) Kevin g = 232 DBIS posts10) Block Dog = 230 DBIS posts11) Reg = 208 DBIS posts12) Marc = 200 DBIS posts13) starkravingbrad = 186 DBIS posts14) Peter T. = 168 DBIS posts15) MJG = 163 DBIS posts16) EEE = 149 DBIS posts17) DeWester = 120 DBIS posts18) baerwald = 111 DBIS postsOf course, once I compiled this list --- I immediately realized that
I am NOT the MOST FREQUENT POSTER TO THIS BOARD. My name
comes in at NUMBER FIVE. Coincidentally --- three of the four
above me all at one time or another have made comments about
my frequency of posting --- WHICH IS LESS THAN THEIRS! Now,
of course, there have been times when I might have started a few
threads here and there, and other times when you look at the
board and I have six going at once. This all depends on what's
happening at the moment --- and how busy I am with other
things. But, at no time have I ever posted 17 messages in a single day! It's just not there Pat. I left the DBIS for FIVE MONTHS --- and I came back BECAUSE I
WAS ASKED TO. I posted that I felt it was true that I was one of
the people who "kept things interesting around here." To which
DB himself replied with the following:"I think Kent's right. He does keep it fun. We need more extreme
and controversial viewpoints." Then, David proceeded to list the various types that would be
considered controversial: "Come on you UFO/Illuminatii guys, and Pro Death Penalty Right-
To-Birthers, you Bush Knew People, all varieties of Misanthropes,
Dreamers, Crackpots, Utopians, Paranoids, Visionaries, this is
your home and soapbox."[posted by baerwald July 31, 2003 13:52:29 CDT]THIS is what the ARTIST TO WHOM THIS WEBSITE IS DEDICATED
wants to see this site become --- and not a bunch of babies
running around hairy-fairy every time we travel out of the
COMFORT ZONE. I even posted about this several times in the
past --- this place could be one fucking totally cool SALON ---
with all kinds of ENLIGHTENING INFORMATION DISCUSSED. Unfortunately for DB --- he does not get his wish. This is
because the DBIS is dominated by people who would rather argue
and raise the level of vitirol --- instead of sitting still and
learning something important --- such as what I have to say
about the home mortgage. But hey --- fuck it --- saving REAL
$$$$ apparently isn't that important these days. The true problem with the DBIS is the same problem that our
country suffers from. Too few people willing to TAKE A TRUE
STAND SUCH AS I HAVE. Too few people with REAL GUTS AND
REAL COURAGE to look the NEW WORLD ORDER in the face and
say FUCK YOU to those people and their power trips. To those of you that refuse to believe in this STILL --- EVEN
AFTER TWO YEARS OF MY EFFORT TO EDUCATE YOU --- you have
no Constitution left after the USA PATRIOT ACT and all the related
legislation has been passed. You SCAREDY CATS want to call DAVID ICKE and ALEX JONES and
JEFF RENSE nutball-fuckjobs --- however, all three of these men
get a combined 25 MILLION PAGE HITS A MONTH!! So, if this is
the current representation of EXTREME --- then there is a lot of
us running around. Some of them may even be in your families. (Wouldn't that be ironic fun?!?!?)The REAL TRUTH is for the last and final time:There are people that are working 24 hours a day to steal global
resources --- even drinking water is being privitized. These
people have bankrupted this country --- a condition which has
existed since 1933!These people just stole within the last four years --- the LIFE
SAVINGS of MILLIONS OF PEOPLE. Maybe one of these people is
your mother or your father, or you yourself. The laws that are
being proposed and passed in congress have already removed
your right to a jury, to know your accuser, and even to a trial
under the laws of the USA. The first amendment is supposed to provide us with the right to
PETITION FOR REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES. This right also no longer
exists --- as the Congressman and Senator simply refuse to
answer or acknowledge such petitions they receive.There now is a law that has been proposed --- THE VICTORY ACT
--- that creates crimes out of what were previously YOUR
RIGHTS. For instance, if they want to come after anyone they
please for writing letters to their Senator that express outrage,
can now be branded a PAPER TERRORIST.Yes, PAPER TERRORIST is a phrase you are going to hear a lot
more of in the future.When the VICTORY ACT gets passed as law --- anyone who is
stupid enough to buy rolling papers at the store and uses
anything BUT CA$H can be branded a NARCO TERRORIST.Yes, you will be hearing more about these things in the future.So now, you have chased another person away. You people don't
even have enough sense to take the ARGUMENTS OFF-BOARD.
Whatever the level of vitriol is because you create it with your
apathy and denial.Just for the record, I think it is DISPICABLE what was done to this
guy named Richard here last year. This guy did have an opposing
viewpoint --- which was MORE EXTREME THAN I EVER WAS. He
called David Baerwald TEHRAN DAVE for Godsakes. But, what
happend was instead of using this as an opportunity to learn why
does someone get such EXTREME views of the world --- you
belittled and harrangued this guy until he finally said FUCK THIS
and he left. Perhaps the reason why some of us have EXTREME VIEWS is
because we didn't get WARD AND JUNE CLEAVER for parents, or
maybe our life was filled with hospitals and doctors, like mine
was and still is today. Perhaps the reason why I kept bringing up
the same subjects --- is because THEY ARE IMPORTANT AND
YOU NEED TO LISTEN.If you think that some scum bag like BILL O'REILLY or RUSH
LIMBAUGH is going to do anything other than pontificate and
propagandize --- then, you are in for one long wait --- because
it isn't going to happen. Ever. If that is whom you are depending
upon for the news --- all I can say is I would hate to be at your
house when the BIG ONE GOES OFF. Good luck with that apathy and denial --- I hope it serves you
well when 9/11 TIMES TEN goes off --- because it IS coming.David Baerwald --- you know how to get in touch with me should
you need to. Our go-between has offered to keep that line open,
which I really appreciate by the way!! I have to move on, as in any
true self-appraisal --- this experience has ultimately been a
rather ineffective use of my time and expertise.My best of luck to each and every one of you (even you Kevin g). I
sincerely hope that each one of you will come to know truth when
you find it, and my hope is for you and for the world now and
forevermore . . .. . . peace and prayers.KDB 08/23/03 (KentDB741 Post # 451 of 451)
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Greetings:First of all, I would like to give my humblest apologies to David
Baerwald --- due to the continued and ever-present vitriol here
on the board which has been unfairly directed at me --- this is
my last-ever message to this message board. It is now time for
me to move on --- a decision which I am sure will please those of
you who have continually badgered me and fomented arguments,
effectively keeping me from my real work --- which I must now
go and finish.This brings me no pleasure because I have enjoyed all the
friendships I have made here --- those of you know who you are.
I have your e-mail addresses, and I will stay in touch. Also, I will
continue to monitor David's "career" such as it is at the moment. I
think it sucks that DB isn't on a label --- or wasn't willing or able
to start one of his own. David Baerwald always was and always
will be my own BOB DYLAN. His music has been deeply
intertwined in my life, and I will not stop enjoying the music, just
because I am leaving the website.I have come to the conclusion that there are a few of you around
here that are deeply screwed in the head --- such as the two or
three people who have been alleging that I post too much
information, and that this site somehow became the KDB
Infosource. What I found especially perplexing about these
statements --- was that they were made by three people who
posted MORE OFTEN to this board than I!!!The proof is on the DBIS Archives Page, which is located at:
http://www.dbinfosource.com/board/archive.aspWhile examining that page, the following information can be seen
and confirmed by all that read these words:Eugene = 537 posts / PatBrown = 532 posts / Kravitz = 498
posts / Dale = 484 posts / KentDB741 = 450 posts (this one
makes 451)Primarily the two people that bitched the most about my
frequency of posting were Pat and Dale --- both of whom have
more messages on the board than I do!So why don't we call it the DALEinfosource, or Pat's Playhouse?With that allegation swiftly laid to rest --- let me point out a post
that Pat recently directed at me (Wed Aug 20 2003 20:36:03
CDT):"I do enjoy reading some of your posts, but much more when
there aren't 17 of them every day. This is the DB Infosource, not
the KDB Infosource after all."I went through the posted archives (every bit of it!!) and at no
time have I ever left anywhere near that many messages.
Nevertheless, it was an interesting comment from someone who
has made 80 more posts to the message board than I. Also, Pat has been talking for quite awhile now about two new
features to this board that he wanted to implement --- the
quotes database and the media review database --- where
DBIS'ers can post their favorite book, CD, and DVD (plus whatever
else) reviews that we would like to "share" with the rest. However, the truth is that I am the only one here that regularily
posted CD, DVD, and BOOK reviews. There were a few others here
and there, but I was the only one who did this on a regular basis.
Also, with the quotes database, I posted 22 quotes. Everyone else
posted two or three, and that was about it. Pat also made a
comment about this both in public and in private e-mail. So, we
have a guy who wants people to use something he created, and
then he attacks the one person who has caught on to the intent of
what the thing was supposed to be in the first place. Congratulations Pat, you just effectively killed something you
created --- my intent was to share a few IDEAS with the rest here,
and I even told you that I COLLECT quotes, and I had hundreds
that I could have posted, if I wanted to be a complete asshole.
But, I didn't do that --- I wanted to encourage people to OPEN UP
a little around here, until people like you and Dale opened up
your uninformed skulls and ruined it for the few around here that
want to learn but who are afraid that their heads would be taken
off if they identified themselves publicly --- especially if they
happen to agree with me.I post CD and DVD reviews and then I get accusations that I must
be wealthy from a big medical settlement I am sitting on. Well,
just to clear up that bit of complete nonsense --- once again let
me say to everyone reading these words --- I got 1% of what I
was supposed to get. I do not know how ANYONE could equate
1% as being a large sum of money. But, the people who made
these types of comments did not let the fact that they were
completely uninformed stop them from making them. No
verification, no confirmation, no facts behind the statement.The reason why I brought up the HOME MORTGAGE issue, is
because most of you here have involved yourselves in one. I know
how to get a person out of a thirty-year mortgage in as little as
ten years, or in as little as one year --- if you have the balls and a
killer attorney. However, rather than shutting the fuck up and
learning something that could ultimately save each one of you
between $100,000 to $200,000 --- you preferred instead to
argue with me and tell me as Dale did that "I DON'T KNOW SHIT."
He made this comment after I told him that I have a degree in
finance, was a former stock broker, owned and managed my own
business for ten years, and had known how to avoid the home
mortgage trap for Paula and myself.You know what? Who fucking cares, right?If Dale and Pat and a couple of others like Kevin G want to think I
am Koo Koo for Coca-Puffs --- that's fine with me. I just want to
warn them that they can enjoy making all those house payments
under an illegal contract arrrangement. If they are that ignorant
that they cannot listen to a TENABLE SOLUTION --- then I should
just not bother anymore with what is ultimately for me --- a
complete waste of my time and effort.With regard to the bitching about the frequency and the length of
my posts --- as I have stated many times in the past --- time is
running out, folks. I do not have the luxury of time to dance
through the daisy fields with those of who that cannot handle real
information. Things are speeding up --- a person would have to
be completely brain dead to have not noticed this by now. There
was even a book entitled THE QUICKENING --- by the Illuminati
propagandist ART BELL --- which was published in 1997.In this book --- ART BELL --- makes the following statement on
pg. 309:"Where is THE QUICKENING taking us? Will there be a global
government with a 'benevolent' dictator, overseeing global law,
global police, and a global judiciary in an attempt to make the
world cleaner, peaceful, and prosperous? If that's what it takes to
achieve these ends, so be it." - ART BELL (The Quickening, pg.
309)THIS IS ACTUALLY IN A BOOK! This is what they have planned for your children, people.With the always gullable SHEEPLE accepting complete nonsense as
the official explanation of 9/11 --- the NEW WORLD ORDER
LIZARDS have stepped up their pace toward full out global
fascism. And with BU$H Jr. doing his best to start WWIII by
fucking with Korea --- it is only a matter of time before CHINA
starts threatening the USA to KNOCK IT OFF.Yes --- time is running out.The amount of information that I could have posted here would
have made each and every one of your heads spin --- I only
posted the BARE MINIMUM that I felt was REALLY IMPORTANT. For example, I recently posted information about a former school
teacher named JOHN TAYLOR GATTO. I later received an e-mail
from an Infosourcer who actually went out and purchased this
man's most important book. Because this person has a small child
--- reading the book I recommended will help make a better life
for both parent and child. It will change the way this child will be
raised --- and for that I am most grateful that at least one of you
listened to something that I had to say. And because this child is
not yet of the age Gatto says is beyond help --- this parent will
be able to save the child they love. I can think of no better gift to
give anyone. I am proud to have had even a small part in that. I also posted a public message awhile back --- in which I
announced that I was writing a book and that I would be using the
message board for research purposes. Since one of the most
important sections of the book is entitled THE POLITICS OF BELIEF
--- it was my place to float provocations and to play the role of
provocateur --- the fact that some of you have the attention span
of a small kitten --- forgot this entirely. The arguments that you
started or stoked was in response to deliberate nudges and digs.Thank you, you have provided me with some invaluable material
for my book. Don't worry though, you will remain anonymous. I
would not want to give any of you the satisfaction of being able to
later say that you appear in someone's book. Some others of you here cannot distinguish between OPINIONS
and FACTUAL INFORMATION. Each and every thing that I ever
posted about on this message board is contained somewhere
within my research. For instance --- one of the subjects about
which I posted that freaked out a few people such as Kevin G ---
was that of the UNDERGROUND MILITARY BASES. Kevin refused to
believe it, however I have GPS satellite coordinates of over 100 of
them. I have even visited the location of a few of them to verify
the information --- but that didn't stop Kevin from believing
whatever he wanted to about the matter. The POLITICS OF BELIEF has forced some of you to call my
conclusions EXTREME OPINIONS. However, the subjects I posted
about were not opinions --- they were FACTUAL CONCLUSIONS
based upon research using the scientific principle of verifiying the
data to insure it could be repeated. With proper application of the SCIENTIFIC METHOD and
MATHEMATICAL LOGIC --- the investigator goes wherever the
data takes them, and not merely bend the data to meet
presupposed ideas. The fact that some of you have alleged this of
me shows that you do not understand the concept of RESEARCH
and of how to obtain results. There was no possbile way I could
have had any sort of presupposed ideas --- because I was a
junior in high school when the Illuminati entered the periphery of
my life. I had never heard of it before then, and all I wanted to do
initially was figure out what the fuck happened to my own family. So, once again, you are WRONG about that.I even mentioned the details of how long, how much, and
provided details of some of the things in my archives. None of
this was ever taken seriously --- which was a pretty fucking big
insult to me personally --- and of all the 20,000+ hours of
research I have done over the past 23 years. Yet, I accurately
predicted what would happen with the SMALLPOX program of the
government --- more than six months before it was announced
by the White House --- I told you about it here first. But, even
when it is staring you in the face you cannot see it.The only conlusion I can come to is this --- if in the year 2003
--- the TRUTH is considered EXTREME --- then things are far
worse than I originally thought. You refuse to believe me even
though I have documentation --- but you will believe that a dead
man in a cave in Afganistan orchestrated the 9/11 attacks ---
and who was able to alter the laws of physics, force NORAD JETS
to STAND DOWN and coordinate attacks from four different
airports simultaneously. All from a cave! And the guy who
supposedly did this is DEAD! BUT THAT'S BELIEVEABLE?!?!?!?WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!?!?I also told all of you when we started out that some of this
information was not going to be pleasant. Who wants to find out
that what they thought was the best thing they ever did --- buy a
house --- is actually the biggest FUCK JOB they'll ever get?
However, those of you with children could have at least taken the
information and taught them to NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES
AS MOMMY AND DADDY when they grow up. How many of you actually went and calculated your mortgage
payment books --- to see what you are REALLY PAYING FOR
YOUR HOUSE? It's a shame --- class is now over --- the teacher is going home.One last thing I want to mention is this idea that people like Dale
and Pat have that I have driven people away from this site.
Another allegation that is ridiculous --- to say the least. I went
back to the earliest archives posted here online. I found at least
fifty people over the years that have stopped by for a moment ---
and then disappeared --- all before I even joined this board in
the fall of 2001. So, if such a large number of people left all on
their own --- BEFORE I EVEN JOINED --- how does that equte to
being my fault?The archives page contains posts from roughly 75 people. 18 of
those people have posted more than 100 messages --- I will call
this group THE DBIS REGULARS. As of the writing of this FINAL
MESSAGE --- this is the breakdown of who has posted how many
messages to this board:THE DBIS REGULARS (and number of posts for each - 08/23/03)01) Eugene / Gene = 537 DBIS posts02) PatBrown = 532 DBIS posts03) Kravitz = 498 DBIS posts04) Dale = 484 DBIS posts05) KentDB741 = 450 DBIS posts06) Kevin (may be multiple people) = 290 DBIS posts07) Andrea = 287 DBIS posts08) Dan Heatherly = 232 DBIS posts09) Kevin g = 232 DBIS posts10) Block Dog = 230 DBIS posts11) Reg = 208 DBIS posts12) Marc = 200 DBIS posts13) starkravingbrad = 186 DBIS posts14) Peter T. = 168 DBIS posts15) MJG = 163 DBIS posts16) EEE = 149 DBIS posts17) DeWester = 120 DBIS posts18) baerwald = 111 DBIS postsOf course, once I compiled this list --- I immediately realized that
I am NOT the MOST FREQUENT POSTER TO THIS BOARD. My name
comes in at NUMBER FIVE. Coincidentally --- three of the four
above me all at one time or another have made comments about
my frequency of posting --- WHICH IS LESS THAN THEIRS! Now,
of course, there have been times when I might have started a few
threads here and there, and other times when you look at the
board and I have six going at once. This all depends on what's
happening at the moment --- and how busy I am with other
things. But, at no time have I ever posted 17 messages in a single day! It's just not there Pat. I left the DBIS for FIVE MONTHS --- and I came back BECAUSE I
WAS ASKED TO. I posted that I felt it was true that I was one of
the people who "kept things interesting around here." To which
DB himself replied with the following:"I think Kent's right. He does keep it fun. We need more extreme
and controversial viewpoints." Then, David proceeded to list the various types that would be
considered controversial: "Come on you UFO/Illuminatii guys, and Pro Death Penalty Right-
To-Birthers, you Bush Knew People, all varieties of Misanthropes,
Dreamers, Crackpots, Utopians, Paranoids, Visionaries, this is
your home and soapbox."[posted by baerwald July 31, 2003 13:52:29 CDT]THIS is what the ARTIST TO WHOM THIS WEBSITE IS DEDICATED
wants to see this site become --- and not a bunch of babies
running around hairy-fairy every time we travel out of the
COMFORT ZONE. I even posted about this several times in the
past --- this place could be one fucking totally cool SALON ---
with all kinds of ENLIGHTENING INFORMATION DISCUSSED. Unfortunately for DB --- he does not get his wish. This is
because the DBIS is dominated by people who would rather argue
and raise the level of vitirol --- instead of sitting still and
learning something important --- such as what I have to say
about the home mortgage. But hey --- fuck it --- saving REAL
$$$$ apparently isn't that important these days. The true problem with the DBIS is the same problem that our
country suffers from. Too few people willing to TAKE A TRUE
STAND SUCH AS I HAVE. Too few people with REAL GUTS AND
REAL COURAGE to look the NEW WORLD ORDER in the face and
say FUCK YOU to those people and their power trips. To those of you that refuse to believe in this STILL --- EVEN
AFTER TWO YEARS OF MY EFFORT TO EDUCATE YOU --- you have
no Constitution left after the USA PATRIOT ACT and all the related
legislation has been passed. You SCAREDY CATS want to call DAVID ICKE and ALEX JONES and
JEFF RENSE nutball-fuckjobs --- however, all three of these men
get a combined 25 MILLION PAGE HITS A MONTH!! So, if this is
the current representation of EXTREME --- then there is a lot of
us running around. Some of them may even be in your families. (Wouldn't that be ironic fun?!?!?)The REAL TRUTH is for the last and final time:There are people that are working 24 hours a day to steal global
resources --- even drinking water is being privitized. These
people have bankrupted this country --- a condition which has
existed since 1933!These people just stole within the last four years --- the LIFE
SAVINGS of MILLIONS OF PEOPLE. Maybe one of these people is
your mother or your father, or you yourself. The laws that are
being proposed and passed in congress have already removed
your right to a jury, to know your accuser, and even to a trial
under the laws of the USA. The first amendment is supposed to provide us with the right to
PETITION FOR REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES. This right also no longer
exists --- as the Congressman and Senator simply refuse to
answer or acknowledge such petitions they receive.There now is a law that has been proposed --- THE VICTORY ACT
--- that creates crimes out of what were previously YOUR
RIGHTS. For instance, if they want to come after anyone they
please for writing letters to their Senator that express outrage,
can now be branded a PAPER TERRORIST.Yes, PAPER TERRORIST is a phrase you are going to hear a lot
more of in the future.When the VICTORY ACT gets passed as law --- anyone who is
stupid enough to buy rolling papers at the store and uses
anything BUT CA$H can be branded a NARCO TERRORIST.Yes, you will be hearing more about these things in the future.So now, you have chased another person away. You people don't
even have enough sense to take the ARGUMENTS OFF-BOARD.
Whatever the level of vitriol is because you create it with your
apathy and denial.Just for the record, I think it is DISPICABLE what was done to this
guy named Richard here last year. This guy did have an opposing
viewpoint --- which was MORE EXTREME THAN I EVER WAS. He
called David Baerwald TEHRAN DAVE for Godsakes. But, what
happend was instead of using this as an opportunity to learn why
does someone get such EXTREME views of the world --- you
belittled and harrangued this guy until he finally said FUCK THIS
and he left. Perhaps the reason why some of us have EXTREME VIEWS is
because we didn't get WARD AND JUNE CLEAVER for parents, or
maybe our life was filled with hospitals and doctors, like mine
was and still is today. Perhaps the reason why I kept bringing up
the same subjects --- is because THEY ARE IMPORTANT AND
YOU NEED TO LISTEN.If you think that some scum bag like BILL O'REILLY or RUSH
LIMBAUGH is going to do anything other than pontificate and
propagandize --- then, you are in for one long wait --- because
it isn't going to happen. Ever. If that is whom you are depending
upon for the news --- all I can say is I would hate to be at your
house when the BIG ONE GOES OFF. Good luck with that apathy and denial --- I hope it serves you
well when 9/11 TIMES TEN goes off --- because it IS coming.David Baerwald --- you know how to get in touch with me should
you need to. Our go-between has offered to keep that line open,
which I really appreciate by the way!! I have to move on, as in any
true self-appraisal --- this experience has ultimately been a
rather ineffective use of my time and expertise.My best of luck to each and every one of you (even you Kevin g). I
sincerely hope that each one of you will come to know truth when
you find it, and my hope is for you and for the world now and
forevermore . . .. . . peace and prayers.KDB 08/23/03 (KentDB741 Post # 451 of 451)
