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Hi Dr Dan:
My understanding is this is part of their national service, and on-going duty of citizenship thereafter, every home has a weapon. Please do enlighten me as to when it changed.
Ntl, that model is what Tom Jefferson envisioned regarding militias, as he wanted one of the Amendments of the Bill of Rights to outlaw any 'standing army'. Another was to outlaw corporatism, in the mercantile mode we still have today.
to y'all:
As to gun control generally, when are people going to recognize laws are for punishment, and they are not a preventive measure. Certainly gun controls are not, and there are decades of data to prove it. When are you anti gun nuts(hey, it's only fair if you can call 2nd Amendment supporters gun nuts) going to acknowledge that where 'concealed carry' laws have been enacted violent crime and gun related crime has decreased markedly, in the immediate short term and thereafter.
Y'know Ed and somebody else have a point to a degree. Perhaps the other 30 people wouldn't have died if the guy had another type of weapon but it's also true that guns are here to stay and one student/professor/janitor/whomever with a concealed weapon could have just as easily prevented this sneak attack.
AND, no matter where you look in the world where law abiding citizens have given up their guns, the criminals have not. Meaning, the nutters will always have a source to obtain one too.
Last, I want to reiterate that the campus is equipped with a loud speaker system, that was being used to some extent, and too, this remains a terrible tragedy that could have been minimized greatly by trusting people more than government(or the University, who has a no-weapons policy(which only worked out for the nutter)).
peaceably
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“Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions.” Wm O. Douglas
“Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions.” Wm O. Douglas
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Hi Dr Dan:
My understanding is this is part of their national service, and on-going duty of citizenship thereafter, every home has a weapon. Please do enlighten me as to when it changed.
Ntl, that model is what Tom Jefferson envisioned regarding militias, as he wanted one of the Amendments of the Bill of Rights to outlaw any 'standing army'. Another was to outlaw corporatism, in the mercantile mode we still have today.
to y'all:
As to gun control generally, when are people going to recognize laws are for punishment, and they are not a preventive measure. Certainly gun controls are not, and there are decades of data to prove it. When are you anti gun nuts(hey, it's only fair if you can call 2nd Amendment supporters gun nuts) going to acknowledge that where 'concealed carry' laws have been enacted violent crime and gun related crime has decreased markedly, in the immediate short term and thereafter.
Y'know Ed and somebody else have a point to a degree. Perhaps the other 30 people wouldn't have died if the guy had another type of weapon but it's also true that guns are here to stay and one student/professor/janitor/whomever with a concealed weapon could have just as easily prevented this sneak attack.
AND, no matter where you look in the world where law abiding citizens have given up their guns, the criminals have not. Meaning, the nutters will always have a source to obtain one too.
Last, I want to reiterate that the campus is equipped with a loud speaker system, that was being used to some extent, and too, this remains a terrible tragedy that could have been minimized greatly by trusting people more than government(or the University, who has a no-weapons policy(which only worked out for the nutter)).
peaceably
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“Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions.” Wm O. Douglas
“Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions.” Wm O. Douglas
posted 2007.04.17
posted on April 17th 2007
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Blacksburg – Eugene on April 16th, 2007-
Re: Blacksburg – mick on April 16th, 2007-
Re: Blacksburg – cyanaura on April 17th, 2007
Re: Blacksburg – Kevin G on April 17th, 2007-
Re: Blacksburg – Green Mtn on April 17th, 2007-
"Sidearms for Freshman". – edlorah on April 17th, 2007
Re: Blacksburg – Eugene on April 17th, 2007
This is going to come out as an act of Terrorism – PatBrown on April 17th, 2007-
Re: This is going to come out as an act of Nutism – edlorah on April 17th, 2007-
Re: This is going to come out as an act of Nutism – dale on April 17th, 2007-
If they'd outlawed his nailgun he woulda killed 'em with a hammer – edlorah on April 17th, 2007-
Re: If they'd outlawed his nailgun he woulda killed 'em with a hammer – dale on April 17th, 2007-
Re: If they'd outlawed his nailgun he woulda killed 'em with a hammer – edlorah on April 17th, 2007-
Re: If they'd outlawed his nailgun he woulda killed 'em with a hammer – dale on April 17th, 2007-
Re: If they'd outlawed his nailgun he woulda killed 'em with a hammer – Rogertick on April 17th, 2007
Fun, fun, fun 'til Daddy takes the gun away... – edlorah on April 17th, 2007-
Fun, fun, fun 'til papa bear takes the .45-70 away... – messybear on April 18th, 2007-
Re: Fun, fun, fun 'til papa bear takes the .45-70 away... – pkjensen on April 18th, 2007-
Re: Fun, fun, fun 'til papa bear takes the .45-70 away... – messybear on April 18th, 2007-
Re: Fun, fun, fun 'til papa bear takes the .45-70 away... – pkjensen on April 18th, 2007-
Re: Fun, fun, fun 'til papa bear takes the .45-70 away... – messybear on April 18th, 2007-
Re: Fun, fun, fun 'til papa bear takes the .45-70 away... – pkjensen on April 18th, 2007-
Re: Fun, fun, fun 'til papa bear takes the .45-70 away... – messybear on April 18th, 2007
Re: Fun, fun, fun 'til papa bear takes the .45-70 away... – messybear on April 18th, 2007-
Re: Fun, fun, fun 'til papa bear takes the .45-70 away... – edlorah on April 18th, 2007
Re: Fun, fun, fun 'til papa bear takes the .45-70 away... – pkjensen on April 19th, 2007-
Well PK... – Reg on April 19th, 2007-
Re: Well PK... – pkjensen on April 20th, 2007
Re: Fun, fun, fun 'til papa bear takes the .45-70 away... – messybear on April 19th, 2007-
Re: Fun, fun, fun 'til papa bear takes the .45-70 away... – pkjensen on April 20th, 2007-
Re: Fun, fun, fun 'til papa bear takes the .45-70 away... – messybear on April 20th, 2007
Re: Fun, fun, fun 'til papa bear takes the .45-70 away... – messybear on April 20th, 2007
Re: This is going to come out as an act of Nutism – pkjensen on April 18th, 2007
Re: This is going to come out as a terrible crime of passion – pkjensen on April 17th, 2007
Re: This is going to come out as an act of Terrorism – Eugene on April 17th, 2007-
Re: This is going to come out as an act of Terrorism – Green Mtn on April 17th, 2007-
Re: This is going to come out as an act of Terrorism – Eugene on April 17th, 2007-
Re: This is going to come out as an act of Terrorism – Kevin G on April 17th, 2007-
Re: This is going to come out as an act of Terrorism – mick on April 17th, 2007
Re: This is going to come out as an act of Terrorism – Reg on April 18th, 2007
Re: This is going to come out as an act of Terrorism – Green Mtn on April 19th, 2007
Re: This is going to come out as an act of Terrorism – Dan on April 17th, 2007-
Re: This is going to come out as an act of Terrorism – stark raving brad on April 17th, 2007-
Re: This is going to come out as an act of Terrorism – pkjensen on April 17th, 2007-
Re: This is going to come out as an act of Terrorism – Green Mtn on April 17th, 2007
Since when Dan? – Green Mtn on April 17th, 2007-
Re: Since when Dan? – Dan on April 17th, 2007-
Re: Since when Dan? – Green Mtn on April 19th, 2007-
Re: Since when Dan? – Dan on April 19th, 2007
Hey Green – PatBrown on April 18th, 2007-
Re: Hey Green – Dan on April 18th, 2007-
Re: Hey Green – PatBrown on April 18th, 2007-
Re: Hey Pat – mick on April 18th, 2007-
Re: Hey Mick – Reg on April 18th, 2007-
Re: Hey Reggers – mick on April 18th, 2007-
Re: Hey Reggers – Reg on April 19th, 2007-
Re: Hey Reggers – mick on April 21st, 2007
Aw, c'mon Dn – Green Mtn on April 19th, 2007-
Dont feel slighted Green – PatBrown on April 19th, 2007-
Re: Dont feel slighted Green – Dan on April 19th, 2007-
Re: Dont feel slighted Green – mick on April 21st, 2007
If it's any help Dan – Green Mtn on April 22nd, 2007
Re: Aw, c'mon Dn – Baerwald on April 21st, 2007-
Re: Aw, c'mon Dan – Green Mtn on April 22nd, 2007
Re: Aw, c'mon Dn – PatBrown on April 23rd, 2007
Re: This is going to come out as an act of Terrorism – messybear on April 19th, 2007
We really should hold off on this... – Reg on April 17th, 2007
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