Green Mtn
location: Observing the Progressive madness with considerably less amusement.
listening to: Grandchildren, the best reason for saving the future.
registered: 2004.04.03
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5* ¶ And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6* But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
7* But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
8* Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.from Matthew 6I appreciate your sentiment James, and I know what you mean about supporting do good thoughts, and I'd bet a valid case could be made that pervasiveness of prayer in school would influence non believers to some degree or another, via community/peer pressure. But this isn't/shouldn't be a Federal issue. Constitutionally it's a State's rights' issue and I firmly believe it should be decided locally based on community standards as the Constitution would seem to support(at least once upon a time). Clearly the scripture above does not support rote prayer, in any form. Further, what if a given teacher didn't believe-would that make the prayer of none effect?I'm a curious boy; always got me into trouble too.
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“Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions.” Wm O. Douglas
“Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions.” Wm O. Douglas
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5* ¶ And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6* But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
7* But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
8* Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.from Matthew 6I appreciate your sentiment James, and I know what you mean about supporting do good thoughts, and I'd bet a valid case could be made that pervasiveness of prayer in school would influence non believers to some degree or another, via community/peer pressure. But this isn't/shouldn't be a Federal issue. Constitutionally it's a State's rights' issue and I firmly believe it should be decided locally based on community standards as the Constitution would seem to support(at least once upon a time). Clearly the scripture above does not support rote prayer, in any form. Further, what if a given teacher didn't believe-would that make the prayer of none effect?I'm a curious boy; always got me into trouble too.
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“Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions.” Wm O. Douglas
“Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions.” Wm O. Douglas
