well-put, PRH (you commie pinko gerbil-stuffer). but i too would very much rather see people disagree without resorting to personal remarks of an immature nature. of course, when one feels obligated to point out that someone's viewpoint strikes them as selfish, uninformed or overly conspiratorial, i suppose it opens the door somewhat to the lower road; however, that doesn't mean that one must fly down that road in a Panzer tank driven by General Sherman, and i lament having to read those posts. calling people names is never called for (unless we're discussing Mick). the opinions expressed by Pat, Kevin, Dan, (MIA) George, Greenie, et al are critical to this site's ability to hold our attentions for as long as it has (and hopefully will continue to), and someday i'd like to buy a beer at a db show for even those with whom i disagree. without them it would really be a boring left-handed circle jerk around here.